[Pierre]

A good article some more quotes and coments:

†œYouâà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€à …¾Ã‚¢re lost, bro,ââ‚ ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� he told me. †œYou need to open your eyes. Look at the filth around you. Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a sick society and only Islam is the cure.ââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� I asked him what he meant by sick. †œThere is a cancer, Christianity is a cancer, Judaism is a cancer, materialism is a cancer, all destroying us, the Muslims.ââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�

Therefore it is ok for the muslims to destroy Judaism,Christainity,Materialism ?

asked him why. †œListen brother, you know that whatever we do in this world, however successful we are, we will always be Pakis, but these guys . . . they know that they will get all the good jobs, all the breaks and worry about nothing. White society looks down on us.ââ‚Âà ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�

Ah I see, so we're playing the race card. I'm sorry but I don't buy the race card anymore there are just as many white families who have plenty to worry about in making ends meet. We certainly don't get all the breaks and good jobs.

I met many guys, during my college years and after, who told me tales of Bosnia

Here's a good point, many people forget that British troops (under the UN flag) went into Bosnia to PROTECT muslims from "ethnic cleansing". I don't recall Abu Hamza complaining about that.

At the moment we live under a covenant of security in this country, we are well treated and therefore should not do operations in this country, terror or otherwise. But if the police and the establishment keep treating Muslims in this way, arresting them and harassing them, then we cannot guarantee the security of this country.ââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�

I see, sounds like a veiled threat to me. Stop arresting us on suspicion of trying to blow you up or we'll blow you up.

These extremists, we keep telling ourselves they have no influence, that they are a few lone nutters. But the sad truth is that all it takes is a few nutters to destroy a nightclub, bring down an aeroplane.

Very Very True

I consider myself a moderate Muslim, a British Muslim.

in that case can rely on your support to shop any of these extremists you might know of???

That is the kind of positive action that is required

The truth is that things are becoming difficult here. It is becoming increasingly difficult for Muslims outwardly to express their faith and this is leading to anger. My wife was in a kitchen store when the shop assistant bombarded her with questions about Islam. The shop assistant was convinced that terror was just around the corner because of her new Muslim neighbour. The Governmentââ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s anti-terror laws are now contributing to an unprecedented climate of fear among Muslims.

And whose fault is that, the muslim community must know who these extremists are. They should name them and cooperate with police. Why haven't they denounced the likes of Abu Hamza?? Why hasn't he been banned from mosques around the country???

With such opposing views, the war on terror has had a huge impact on an already frightened community. These arrests have steeled the jihadi element who feel that the rights of Muslims are being eroded and who believe that it is only a matter of time before Muslims in Britain are allowed to pray, but not to have a political opinion.

We live in free society and muslims living here will always be entitled to free speech within the law. A luxury, they might remind themselves, that was not afforded to them by the Taliban or Saddam.

They have started a crusade against Muslims

I do believe that 9/11 preceeded Afghanistan and Iraq I believe is was a certain Islamic faction that launched a crusade on the west