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Originally Posted by Simon Rochelle
(snip)It is this mixture of cultures which makes them feel so threantened as the west destorys there religion by doing nothing more than existing and influencing the younger generation.
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I can agree with all of this.
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However, as much as they may feel threatened by this, i do not see how they can justifiy a war against us. You might say well we invaded afganistan and iraq, but that was in response to an atrocity against innocent civilians of a magnitude never seen for many decades.
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But the point about, for instance, Iraq is that, as has now been well demonstrated, Saddam had *nothing* to do with September 11th which was one of the excuses for the invasion and it is widely seen by Muslim countries as simply an attempt by the West to increase their power in the region and to undermine Islamic cultures.
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I admit the media these days, although independant, is often used as a tool of propaganda.
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More to the point, big sections of the media are quite content to play that role voluntarily. Fox News comes to mind...
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And i know for a fact there are a myriad of reasons that we are in the position we are in today, but at know point do we try and change something because it is different to us, or try and exterminate it to the last man women and child. We may 'step in' but if only to stop those that actually try to do the above, its called a sense of morality, something terrorists have lost a long time ago. Maybe it is our sense of morality which they fight against, as our laws are built on religious beliefs and rulings from as early as 400AD. But you cannot tell me that when we try to stop people killing others, we are wrong to do so?
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I'm sorry, but I think you need to take a closer look at colonial history and the rise of Western power over the past two or three hundred years, not to mention events such as the Crusades.
We are quite content, when it suits our purpose, to support "Terrorists" (sorry, we like them, so that should probably be "Freedom Fighters") eg Columbia, Nicaragua, Cuba etc. We are happy to supply weapons (including those of mass destruction: Rumsfeld/ Saddam) to questionable regimes (Chile, Indonesia, assorted African states) or do business with countries that have deplorable human rights records (China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia), not to mention being happy to overlook or stay out of conflicts or countries that have no interest or use to us etc.
To portray us as "White Hats" or "Good Guys" whilst ignoring these facts is to blind oneself to the truth.