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Old 01-04-2004, 12:56   #43
Simon Rochelle
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Re: Explosive Fertiliser Found in Terrorist Raid

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Originally Posted by Graham
I think that's not quite as accurate as you portray it. Many terrorists that we hear about *now* may be Muslims is a fact, but there have been many terrorist groups in the past that have no connection with Islam.

Also the word "terrorism" tends to mask the fact that these people are, by their lights, fighting a war against the West, but since they don't have the tanks and bombers etc that we have, they are fighting in the only way available to them.

That is not, of course, to say that I approve of their tactics, but, by the same token, I don't approve of the tactics that we in the West have used either!

Unfortunately we tend to get things shown to us in a very black and white way, we're the good guys, they're the baddies, what we do is right, what they do is wrong, but the fact of the matter is that things aren't as simple as that and just because we disagree with them doesn't mean we have the automatic right to step in and change things to our liking.
Im not saying there is a right or wrong, and your right in saying that most terrorists in the past probably were not muslim in origion, however, over the recent years, and as globalisation occurs with western ideals and philiosophies becomming more dominant thorugh tv and the internet and communication, the whole conept of Islam has become threatened, as there belief systems can be judged as very archaic by some. As well as the newer generations of Muslim come more into contact with the west, and want to share in western culture. I work with two muslims at work, one goes out and drinks, but hides this from her parents as it is frowned upon, she entered into an arranged marriage where she was abused by her husband, until finally she could take no more and left, which was frowned upon by her family and her community. But it is because she has become more westernised and lived in this country all her life. The other, is a full on Muslim, who prays at all the correct times of the day, has never touched a drop of alcholol in her life and frowns upon the actions of the other one but is much older, married with three children. It is this mixture of cultures which makes them feel so threantened as the west destorys there religion by doing nothing more than existing and influencing the younger generation.

However, as much as they may feel threatened by this, i do not see how they can justifiy a war against us. You might say well we invaded afganistan and iraq, but that was in response to an atrocity against innocent civilians of a magnitude never seen for many decades.

What tatics do you not approve of that we have used in the west, bearing in mind that everything that has happened over the past two-three years has been in response to the slaughter of over 5000 innocent men, women and children by fanatical muslim fundementalist terror groups who have a self stlyed holy war against anything or anyone which does not conform to there beliefs?

I admit the media these days, although independant, is often used as a tool of propaganda. And i know for a fact there are a myriad of reasons that we are in the position we are in today, but at know point do we try and change something because it is different to us, or try and exterminate it to the last man women and child. We may 'step in' but if only to stop those that actually try to do the above, its called a sense of morality, something terrorists have lost a long time ago. Maybe it is our sense of morality which they fight against, as our laws are built on religious beliefs and rulings from as early as 400AD. But you cannot tell me that when we try to stop people killing others, we are wrong to do so?
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