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Old 29-03-2004, 01:52   #64
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Re: a 'disability' or not ?

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
But if your son is gifted he does really need it
how?

example

he can walk, talk, breath, think, hes technically a genius ?

on the other hand someone who has a condition where there adult body has a childs mentality is not needy ?


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Originally Posted by Ramrod
...Hang on....no one wants to take money away from anyone
so you expect money for the gifted to come out of thin air ?



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Originally Posted by Pierre
Children have the right to a state education. If a promisingly talented intelligent child cannot realise their potential in a state school then it is up to the parent to find a way to get his child into a private school that may give a higher standard of eduaction.

If he can't pay for a private school there are many good state schools out there, they may have to move home so the child can attend one.

The child certainly does not have the "right" to go to a private school and the council should certainly not pay for it.

There are scholaships that can be won, sponsorships that can obtained. The parent may have to get another job to fund it.

If the family cannot fund the education or find an alternative way of funding it then that, I am afraid, is a fact of life.

Unfortunately people don't always get what they want, or what they feel is right. In our society the more financially advantaged will always get the better deal.

Please don't dress this up under the "Special needs" banner. The child does not have special needs. She is a bright child that could perhaps do with going to a "better" school.

She is no more special needs than a toe rag scally kid that refuses to be taught.

If she is indeed so intelligent, she will still obtain al her GCSEs, A levels and whatever degree she chooses.
totally, catigorically, unreservedly, agree with you pierre, is it so hard to understand for the rest of you ?

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
So the child at the "higher end" should suffer because they have had the misfortune to be blessed with a higher learning capacity? Is that what you are saying?

how are they suffering they are the smart ones ?

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
Extra home tuition as a solution is just is not suitable for gifted children. I t can make matters worse when they go to school and are left even more wanting. It is fine if for example a child has been away from school perhaps due to a long illness and needs to catch up.

i did not mention it would permanant make it an extra to school life not taking away there free time but it seems in this case science and maths is the persons gift so to improve it tuition can help.......

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Originally Posted by Flubflow
I know it is not very PC to suggest that we should divert money away from children with a clinically recognised disability but when it comes to the crunch we should not be talking in terms of higher and lower ends anyway.
i dont do 'PC' i want equality, furthering an already skilled person in such away is discriminating against disabled people, its just another 'the richer get richer the poorer get poorer situation'


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Originally Posted by Flubflow
We have to get out of this "nobody likes a smartarse" mentality and let those who have that certain ability (or disability!) to be able to simply get a fair slice of the cake.
i seem to remember most people in this country dont like success, instead cheer faliure as 'fighters'


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Originally Posted by Flubflow
What I see is a fair chunk of that cake being spent on the general devil spawn children who are in need of there own special class but not clinically diagnosed with a diability. If we have a system for those kids then we should be able to do something for the FEW who are exceptionally gifted.
it still means redirecting funding to people who dont urgently need it, remember the father is a 'doctor' thusly he should pay.
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