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Originally posted by towny
It would be helpful if you displayed some evidence of having tried to understand what the Bible is about before dismissing it out of hand. I want to believe you have an honest and well thought out opinion on the subject 'cos I prefer always to think the best of people as far as possible. However I can't escape the niggling suspicion that you're just being ignorant.
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I haven't read all those bits of the bible so I can't argue why ID cards aren't opposed by the bible. But thats not really where I'm coming from. I'm coming from the perspective that to claim immunity from ID cards because of something it says in a book written 2000 years ago is, in my opinion, nonsense. How religion can be involved in this I really do not know, its just ridiculous. In my view decisions should be made on whats best for us, our neighbour and society as a whole after weighing up the pro's and con's. Not by what was written 2000 years ago by people who had no clue what a modern societies problems are.
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How deeply patronizing. Who made you the arbiter of what's good for this country? People deciding for themselves that they know what's best for everyone else is exactly how this ridiculous ID card plan has come about. 
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No.. I'm saying we should use our own minds to decide whats best for the us. I'm not proclaiming to be right, I could be wrong. Stewart put forward a good argument against ID cards. I don't care about being right, I care about whats best for me and the country. I don't think its right to use the bible as a reason not to support something that may help our society, but by all means argue that ID cards may be bad for society but do it on the basis of advantages and disadvantages not on the sole reason that someone wrote in a book 2000 years ago that it shouldn't happen.