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punky · 27-03-2004, 16:33

With all due respect to Scooby et al. that support the Palestinian cause, Israelis can't help being born in Israel, any more than I can help being born in England. I'm sure if they lived in Israel they'd have a different slant on things. Blaming Israelis is not the way to go.

The truth is the single most incompetent entity in the universe (the UN) created this mess, and have steadfastly refused to get themselves out of it. Everyone says it is the US' problem, but it is not. Kofi Annan should start actually doing something to earn his $293,000 a year salary. I feel for the Palestinians, and they are hard done by, but rather than going through the UN like they should of, they used Islamic hatred of Judaism, to reclaim what land they think is theirs, and to get rid of Judaism, killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

Also, this whole Bush only supports Israel thing is not quite true. Remember when Bush, Sharon and the Palestinian guy (Abbas?) met up, and the 3 talked together. I remember specifically, people saying that Bush stood up for the Palestinians, and overruled Sharon most of the time. I rememeber one quote quite clearly. Sharon said he wouldn't do X, and Bush just turned round and said: "Oh, I think you will". (Trying to find a quotation for it now).

One other thing, I have never managed to get a good explanation about. Islam was founded in around 500AD-600AD, depending on what you class as the start. Now, Judaism goes back to between 2000BC and 3000BC. If Judaism came along between 2600-3600 years before Islam, and claimed the lands then, then how can Islam come along fairly recently and reclaim what the Jews have already claimed? If anyone has any links about it, i'd be much obliged.

27-03-2004, 16:33	#44
punky Inactive Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 45 Posts: 14,750	Re: US Veto Again With all due respect to Scooby et al. that support the Palestinian cause, Israelis can't help being born in Israel, any more than I can help being born in England. I'm sure if they lived in Israel they'd have a different slant on things. Blaming Israelis is not the way to go. The truth is the single most incompetent entity in the universe (the UN) created this mess, and have steadfastly refused to get themselves out of it. Everyone says it is the US' problem, but it is not. Kofi Annan should start actually doing something to earn his $293,000 a year salary. I feel for the Palestinians, and they are hard done by, but rather than going through the UN like they should of, they used Islamic hatred of Judaism, to reclaim what land they think is theirs, and to get rid of Judaism, killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Also, this whole Bush only supports Israel thing is not quite true. Remember when Bush, Sharon and the Palestinian guy (Abbas?) met up, and the 3 talked together. I remember specifically, people saying that Bush stood up for the Palestinians, and overruled Sharon most of the time. I rememeber one quote quite clearly. Sharon said he wouldn't do X, and Bush just turned round and said: "Oh, I think you will". (Trying to find a quotation for it now). One other thing, I have never managed to get a good explanation about. Islam was founded in around 500AD-600AD, depending on what you class as the start. Now, Judaism goes back to between 2000BC and 3000BC. If Judaism came along between 2600-3600 years before Islam, and claimed the lands then, then how can Islam come along fairly recently and reclaim what the Jews have already claimed? If anyone has any links about it, i'd be much obliged.