[mdean]

So Paulyoung a nice rant but does not respond to the key points
1) The red dot
2) NTL is cheaper than BT/Sky
3) Sky + is propriatory junk you must pay £200 for - which will be useless if you leave sky
we were not discussiong the free box which comes with your sub to ntl or sky

and by fta sat I mean stuff not in the sky epg and on other satelittes

ntl wins