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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Cite a case where this happened in Texas please. I want some examples of this.
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I can not be bothered to cite case from the USA. My point is that with such a law in lace there WOULD be mistakes and that means the death of an innocent person - in order to protect your property. Guess your possesions are worth that. There are inumerable cases from the US where people have mistakenly shot people in their homes that they thought were robbers but actually turned out to be spouses,children, friends or someother innocent.
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
I disagree. Thiefs, murderers, rapists should be executed or killed. We have no need for them in society.
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Well if christian morality does not wash with you how about some Jedi code? Hate leads to the dark side
So thiefs should be killed? So I nicked some penny chews from the school tuck shop once when I was 9 or so. Blow me away? Do we have any need for diabled people in society? Should they be killed too. I only ask because your argument at this point _seems_ to be based on how much 'need' society has for an indivdual relating to if they should be killed or not. Or have I got you wrong there?
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
HahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. For me, the sensible thing would be to shoot them dead.  That way I keep my stuff, do society a favor, and everyone is happy. In your world, you would lose your property, the criminals would be at large to terrorize some more, and no one would be happy. |
and of course you would never miss, never be against more than one armed robber. This is real life, not some arnie movie. If you 'resist' an armed robber the chance that you will end up injured or dead increases. That is a fact. Still I guess your TV and viseo are worth that risk, especially if you get a chance to 'wipe some ****' of the face of the earth.
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Thou shalt not murder. Don't confuse murder with killing.
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Not sure what Bible you have there but my says quite clearly 'Thou shalt not KILL' (full stop). As do these top three refs from google.
http://www.memorare.com/cards/apostlescard.html
ok the second ref claims kill is a mis translation and it should be murder
http://www.phy6.org/outreach/Jewish/Ekev.htm
and the third is for electricains
http://www.visdesigns.com/design/commandments.html
OK that was a google on my mispelling of '10 comandments'. So ok I'll drop the 'chrstian morality' arguments (though I do find it hard to imagine JC blowing someone away because they were in his house trying to steal his sandals)
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
No, MURDER is wrong. Killing CAN be wrong if you're murdering someone. Killing CAN be honorable and justified in case of self defense, or when you execute a criminal.
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Killing in defense of anothers life (yours or someone else's) is moraly ambiguous - but killing in defense of your PROPERTY is not. Personaly I would like to think there are things (some people included) that I would be willing to die for but none that I would be willing to kill for.