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Old 19-03-2004, 18:24   #19
Graham
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Re: pornography corrupts the mind........

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Originally Posted by ntluser
Whether pornography corrupts the mind or not depends to some extent on your interpretation of the word 'pornography'.
"Pornography is whatever gets the Judge turned on..."

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In the early days 'pornography' used to contain pictures of attractive, well-endowed,fit naked women in raunchy,flirty poses. There was something artistic about them. It was a ''naughty but nice' situation, because, as has been said earlier, sex and an interest in the opposite sex is quite normal.
Sorry, which "early days" are you talking about?!

The *real* early days are those of the ancient Greeks, the word derives from "Graphos" (writing) and "Porne" which dictionaries tend to translate as "harlots" but the Porne were actually a class of temple courtesan and the point of their writings was, unsurprisingly, to stimulate sexual excitement.

You then have, for instance, the frecos at Pompeii, Indian temple carvings, Japanese Brushwood Scrolls and many more besides, which have varying degrees of explictness but often show sexual acts in graphic detail.

Moving up to the late 19th, early 20th century and the invention of photography, quite unsurprisingly, very soon people were using this new medium to take pictures of young ladies (and men) without clothes on and often in graphic poses/ acts (ditto when moving pictures came along).

At which point those who take it upon themselves to "guard our morals" decided that this was quite enough (and it would corrupt the "lower classes", but they, of course, were immune, so they could look at it without worry) and started coming up with "Obscene Publications Acts" etc or silly things like the US "Hayes Code" for what you could show in a movie.

Slowly (very slowly in some cases), however, common sense has prevailed and, incredibly, it appears that, despite porn being more available and more graphic (if that's your thing) society has *not* collapsed into an utter sink of depravity.

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The problem today is that the relative innocent 'raunchy' poses of the past have been replaced by images containing naked women in acts of fellatio and cunnilingus. Though adults know, as the Kama Sutra and experience tells us, that there are a variety of sexual positions for almost any occasion,I think that a child or a grandparent today would find such things to be repulsive, dirty and perhaps even frightening. Hardly,the best mindset.
The thing is, what you describe above as "attractive, well-endowed,fit naked women in raunchy,flirty poses" has *not* disappeared, it's just not called Pornography any more. You can go into reputable bookshops and buy works by people like Helmut Newton, Eric Kroll and others which show exactly that sort of thing without even making the girl at the counter blush or giggle.

As to what your children or grandparents would think, well the child might react by going "eww!" but I don't really think it would be so traumatic or frightening for them and you would be surprised (I know, because I was!) to find that actually some grandparents know a *lot* more about sex than you would give them credit for!!

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Pornography of that kind may also perhaps induce the wrong mindset into normal sexual relations. Intercourse is for example different from rape.
I am *very slowly* counting to ten at this point...

Do *NOT* make the mistake of considering that what *you* consider to be "normal sex" is anything more than your own opinion.

Most certainly *DO NOT* try to imply connections between pornography and rape because that "connection" has been demonstrated to be fallacious time and time again!

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Though the flirtatious 'porn' of the past was fun and instrumental in raising libido and generating arousal, today's porn does have a repulsive and corrupting aspect to it.
If you don't like it, don't look at it. But *DON'T* say that *OTHERS* will be "corrupted" by it just because you don't like it! That was the argument that was forced on us for a century and it was as wrong then as it is now!

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Like most things in life, there needs to be a balance and everything needs to be taken in moderation.
And I won't disagree. But, once again, do not make the mistake of thinking that what works for *you* should work for *everyone*.
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