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Old 18-03-2004, 14:07   #45
SMHarman
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Re: Simple view on how proxies work (inc DNS)

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Originally Posted by erol
This is true but I doubt NTL run the proxies to save your web hosters external bandwidth. For me if you are doing a cost evaluation from NTL's perspective of how much the proxies save vs how much they cost - then what is relevant is how mcuh they save for NTL (and not how much they save for NTL + third parties).
True however this is indicative of the additional bandwidth of a small site, what would it be like for Amazon or other popular sites? Ultimately it could put up the cost of doing business on line as the bandwidth costs need to be recovered in the selling price.

This is also a reciprocal thing. NTL host sites. If all the proxies on the internet were switched off, then the bandwidth hitting NTLs web servers (their own ntlworld and all their customers) would increase and require more hardware and bandwidth. Bandwidth will become a more used resource, more scarse and more expensive.

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Originally Posted by erol
Well I am not an NTL user and never have been so my personal experience is zero. However having hung around this forum and other NTL related forums it seems to me that 'try changing your proxy' is one of the most common pieces of advise given and thus it would appear that NTL's forced proxies do create significant problems for significant numbers of users. For me it is all about choice. I do not think NTL should necessarily scapt its proxies but just that it should allow people to chooses whether they use them or not.
Yes they screw up for me too. I can get mail, message, but not browse - its the proxys that are the problem in that instance.
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