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Originally Posted by dellwear

But we could pay them a decent wage comarable to the west and enable their goverements to get sufficent tax revenue to build up their countries like we have.

But with the wages going up, you either get the nike shoe makers becoming equivalents of millionaires in their nation, or everyone from private car mechanic to civil servant has to get an equal increase in pay, where's that money coming from?
And sure, people earning more means they pay more taxes, but the things those taxes get spent on also would cost more, so it negates the benifit.

Originally Posted by dellwear

I don't think they have learnt a thing, they have similar policies to when they were thrown out of power, the latest idea is to take the countrie back to the 50's

But they weren't thrown out of power by the great unwashed because of their policies, they were thrown out because of their sleaze and people had lost confidence in them thanks to the media.
I'm hoping labour will be out next election so they can't do any further damage.
Since they came in, I'm worse off, everyone I know is worse off, even my ex, who is a working single parent is worse off!
We've had umpteen dozen strikes.
The fuel blockades.
Safe conservative councils having their gov council tax contributions reduced to rediculous amounts.

Originally Posted by dellwear

Really though it wasn't a government official that approved their applications (for what ever it was) it was a civil servant. I agree it shouldn't have happened, but the MP's in charge of these departments don;t actually work down the immigration processing office standing over the workers. They are told by the management what's happening and let the managers do the running of the offices, just as it has been done for years.

You can't hold the cabinet minister for the Benefits agency responsible for every tom dick or harry that starts giving out free money to people can you?

Yes you can. That's the point of having a minister. They are responsible for what their department does. If a member of their department does something like this, in breach of department and gov policy, and at risk to the nation, then the minister obviously has allowed incompetancy within the dept managment. A good manager knows what his staff is doing and so would be aware of such a breach.
A few years back, when politics was done with more honour, ministers would resign for such incompetance, but with tony, it just isn't happening.
He won't even accept his own responsibilities and deal with the whislte blower who's being punished (but wait, isn't this gov supposed to be pro wistle blower?)