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Thanks for that... Sorry for expresing an opinion  |
Apologies, I have no problem with opinions being expressed and I believe that they should be - but blatant trolling, come on. If you're putting across your own 'opinion', then surely it would help if you expanded to detail some basis of how / why you have reached that opinion. Otherwise it just looks as though you're basing your opinions without any reasonable fact behind them.... which is fine if that's what you're like, but a little naive on your part and frustrating for others.
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
I am not an expert in terorist bombing - you on the other hand obviosly are !
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[PEDANT] obviously [/PEDANT]
No, I just have my own, well informed opinion.
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
I stated that I did not think this was there style for a reason.
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And your reason for that was:
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Dont they usualy use suicide bombers.. This attack was well planned - Does not seem to be alcieda's style...
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The facts that they maybe haven't used suicide bombers in this instance, nor that the attack was too well planned, in my opinion, are no justification to doubt so much their involvment. And to suggest that,
well, they haven't done this before, is also no real basis from which to formulate an opinion. How many times had Al-Qaeda flown planes into two tall buildings before? It's often the resultant effect rather than the methodology used that will get fingers wagging in the right direction. ETA tend not to perform attacks on such a large scale - this was way out of their league. When have ETA used mobile phones for detination? - the islamic fundamentalists are well known for this. I also don't think [1] that ETA tend to compact nails around the bomb, for maximum suffering - as in this instance. Again, another common practice from the islamic fudamentalists.
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Can you fill me in on when Al-Qaeda last used remote detonation on 10 devices at the same time ????
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Again, that's the whole point... otherwise, how would the element of suprise and mass destruction of life combine together to form such a nasty attack. It wouldn't. The Israelis have strict checks before getting onto trains, as they've had many a bad experience in this area, and still do on their buses. I just hope that Britain doesn't need to escalate to such stringent security checks on public services, as that would be an indication that we're losing the war on terror.
I can understand people pointing the finger at ETA in the first instance, after all, we're in a new age of terrorism. But it's about time people woke up to the potential reach and scope of organisations such as Al-Qaeda. I thought 9/11 had pointed that out quite clearly.
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
If you disagree then fine - but there is no reason to call me a :******: is there !!!
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Like I say, if you had presented a well built opinion by looking at
all [or at least some of]the facts available, then that'd be fine. The fact that you did not present anything to support that, coupled with the suggestion that it can't be them
because they didn't kill themselves in the process - and that
this attack was well planned... come on, you must see what I'm getting at here?
There's a difference between airing an opinion and inputting your own opinions into a discussion. IMHO, you aired an opinion based on irrelevant and pointless attributes related to the attack that took place... fine if everyone else chooses to ignore your opinion, but I wanted to highlight the meaning of your comments and the implications of them. If you still believe that what you said is right, fair play, but explain why.
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
GROW UP ! and learn to respect other peoples opinions - if you disagree then fine. Argue your point and I will respect that. Trying to attack me personaly will not give weight to your argument !
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I do respect other peoples opinions when they respect the facts available and when they have something constructive to contribute to a discussion. And yes, I will argue my point, as I have done once again... I don't expect 'personal attacks' to weight my argument, the words do that for me...
oh, and yes, I am grown up - thanks
[1] although I could be wrong