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Originally Posted by punky
and then I started seeing all the tell-tale signs of liars: contradictions, no references, and points not tying into surrounding points properly. I was so confused, I started researching the points he said, to try and find out definitively, whats what, and found out myself, that at best, he took half truths and distorted them (for entertainment value I presume), and at worse, were down right lies.
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Moore is a unabashed and unashamed 'populist' and that requires that things be presnted in a populist way. If you want a rigorous academic verifyable version of what is for me essentialy saying the same stuff them Noam Chomsky is your man and not MM. Noam Chomsky is an acedemic of the highest order. He work is not humorous or easy to read sometimes. Everything quoted has it's sources laid out. For me he does reach a very similar place in the end as MM does. I see them asd opposite side of the same coin.
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Originally Posted by punky
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
http://www.mooreexposed.com
http://www.moorelies.com
http://www.moorewatch.com
It may take a bit of reading to get through the subjective opinions through to the bare facts, but it could make you see a whole different side of Moore. There's plenty more, this is just what I could rememeber off the top of my head. Before you dismiss those sites without a read, rememeber this: The one thing everyone says about anti-Moore fans, is that "our minds are too closed to the awful truth", so while your mind is open, keep it open just a bit longer to to the possibility that Moore might not be telling the truth, with everything he says.
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I will certainly give those sites a read when I get a chance. However _if_ MM has got close to some truths that threaten an elite then it would be surprising if there were not attempts to rubbish him. I have not read your links so I am not saying they represent this, just that such attempts would be an inevitable consequence of getting near 'truths'.