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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b
Regarding restricted usage packages. Again difficult due to the fact that DSL uses PPP to identify subscribers, ntl would need specialist hardware and introduction of PPPoE to offer P2P-less tiers. Even if they did the only saving would be cost, would still be sharing the same network segments as uber leechers.
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So ADSL companies can and do provide restricted usage packages, that the inferior ntl service seemingly could not provide.
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Monitoring software, quite specific software would be required in order to monitor people's usage at off-peak and peak times, and again it comes down to the issue where during peak times 6 - 10pm someone switches kazaa or whatever off, so they are only downloading 8.4GB a day and uploading 2GB a day, still excessive usage, but because it's not causing congestion at 'peak' times this is fine. Peak times by the way are 6pm - 11pm Monday - Friday and about 9AM - 11PM at weekends. Can you imagine heavy downloaders not downloading for 14 hours a day at weekends?
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At least you now agree that excessive usage that is not causing congestion is ok.
Get the monitoring software to monitor the peak and off-peak times, and you might as well also monitor the
most off-peak times as well (sleeping hours midnight-ish till 8ish). It's not that difficult to do monitoring. Then we can make progress. You still haven't given a
valid reason for treating the sleeping-hours the same as the peak hours.
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No ISP should have to support that usage whether it's at peak times or not, and very few do their downloading at night anyway, those downloading 24/7, who seem to be the majority contacted in this case are downloading at peak and off-peak times anyway, so something of a moot point.
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You're missing the point again.
Bandwidth is present and hardly being used in the most off-peak periods, such as the sleeping hours. There is no justifiable reason for more or unlimited downloading to be allowed in that period. It causes no disruption, all that is happening is that, what is there is being used instead of being left idle.
The monitoring is also simplified, as there is no monitoring needed to be done in that period (normal sleeping hours).
There is complete logic in treating that period (normal sleeping hours) differently, and encouraging more users, and especially the heavy users, to use that period more as it will not affect their cap limit.
This is the logic that I/we have tried to drum into the ntl mindset, at great length, but their minds were closed to suggestions of any kind of logic.
As I have said before, logic is not one of ntl's strong points, so I don't hold much hope of getting through the mindset, this time. However, I can but try.