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Originally Posted by Russ D
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Originally Posted by Graham
Oh deary me, are people *still* shooting at a totally discredited target?!
Remember there has been not ONE archeological descovery which has proven the Bible wrong.
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Ah, I see the movable goal posts are back out of storage again...!
Firstly I was not talking about *archaeological* discoveries (the study of man's past through the material remains of his culture), I was talking about the nonsensical claim that the eye "proves" the existance of god because if you take any part away from it, it stops working.
Secondly absence of evidence is *not* evidence of absence.
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The problem with the links you provide is that the site seems to take a very anti-creationalism stance, so can hardly be seen as independant.
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No, it takes a *scientific* stance which says that if you're going to claim something, it's a good idea to back it up with demonstrable facts and *permit* those facts to be analysed and scrutinised by others to determine their validity or falsity, not simply say "That's what it says in the Bible, therefore it's right".
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Back on to the main subject - I don't think people on my side of the argument are against gays having some kind of ceremony, it's just to call it marriage would go against what *we* believe it should be for.
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I suggest you look a bit deeper into what some of the "Concerned Christian" or "Moral Minority" groups out there are actually saying about the idea of *anything* to do with gays viz
http://www.godhatesfags.com/ for instance.
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And if the main thing most gays want is just recognition and legal rights as couples, I'm sure we can all meet in the middle somewhere.
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I suggest you research the phrase "separate but equal" eg
http://boston.indymedia.org/feature/...9615/index.php