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Originally Posted by ntluser
With a government that has lied about so much, how can you tell the difference?
If this had been a one-off incident then I might agree with you but there have been repeated and continuous attempts by this government to deceive the people.
You've also got to bear in mind that when you are committing your country to a war in which people may die ( and indeed have) you cannot afford to be wrong because you can't resurrect the dead.
Further, the government never admitted that it got it wrong. If it had there would have been resignations from ministers and the PM but there weren't any.
It was just a callous plot to oust Sadaam Hussein no matter what.
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Thats flawed logic. Thats like saying because someone has burgled a house before we'll dispense with the facts of this case and just send him to jail.
Anyway, I'm not actually sure what other things Blair has lied about ? Can you give me some examples of this lying ? I had to laugh at all the polls asking whether people believed the government or the BBC when it came to telling the truth. I was surprised it was as high as 18%. I bet the day Tony Blair took office in 1997 you'd probably get the same results from the poll. Nobody believes the government, its the done thing.
The only thing I'm a little unsure about with Tony Blair when it comes to lying is when he said he had nothing to do with the releasing of Dr Kellys name and it seems he was at a few meetings when it was discussed. That doesn't seem right to me, but I'd need to hear all the info before making up my mind for definate.
With regards to the PM and MPs having to resign if they get it wrong, why exactly ? They should all resign because they believed their intelligence advisors when they said Iraq had WMD and were a threat ? The intelligence communities all round the world believed Iraq had WMD and were a threat. Kay, the guy who people quote saying there is no WMD now, he said we all believed he had them at the time. So if you are going to quote him saying there is none now you have to accept it when he says Saddam actively encouraged people to believe he had WMD. I just can't fathom why you think the government lied by saying Iraq had WMD when all the inteligence advisors were telling him they did. Surely to ignore intelligence reports would have been a far worse thing to do ? It was the easy option for Blair to not goto war, its just about ended him politically by doing it, don't you think he did it because he genuinely thought Iraq posed a threat ?