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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Scarlett:
How do you say sorry to a corpse if you find out later on that they were innocent ?
Irrelevant. We're talking justice here, not the judicial process. It is society's job to make sure only those that are guilty are sentenced. I don't know why liberals always like to assume it is more acceptable to sentence someone falsely to life than to sentence someone falsely to death. Both are equally unacceptable.
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It might be societies job to make sure that only the guilty are punished but what about those who have a large amount of money and can afford good Lawyers ? If its a high profile crime i.e. rape or Murder, then the police are under a lot of pressure to show results and at that point, mistakes can be made (and have been made)
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Losing the right to vote, the problem with that is that you run the risk that once you've been convited once the criminal has nothing to use.
Then so be it. I have no desire to see such **** vote. They will only vote for those who will release them earlier and put them on welfare (which is why 97% of child molestors vote liberal / Democrat), which will be BAD for society.
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And we don't vote for the party that is most benificial to ourselves ? I know that I vote for the party that most closely matches my philosophy.
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
How many rights do you take away. An old teach of mine said that there are only 2 things that cannot be taken away from you are your qualifications and the right to vote.
I believe I quite clearly stated that you loose your right to vote.
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Well cannot just be taken away from you, you have to effectivly surrender it by taking part in criminal activity and then getting caught. What I am saying is that maybe you lose the right to vote when inside but once released it is restored to you. i.e. it is not for life.
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Are you sure that you want to open that door ? picture this, a burgler enters you house. You go at him with a crowbar, you scuffle, during this you end up with your head caved in with the crowbar... you die 2 hours later in hospital.
Good example why you should have used a shot-gun or assult gun.
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and have a nation of Tony Martins... What happens if the person coming in is your home help but she forgot to tell you she was coming in today...
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
His defence team offer one defence for your killer, self defence. They are able to show that you must have bought the crowbar to the fight and he was not armed. Therefore he acted in self defence and would have run had you not come at him with a crowbar...
No. You cannot claim self-defense if you're already in the wrong. I would have thought that this would be a logical first-step, however, it seems your judicial system has brainwashed you to such a level that I can't even assume such a basic principle. (No offense intended.)
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In a country where the criminal generally knows more than the victim about what the law is this is exactly what the situation is. I witnessed a shoplifter and gave pursuit and managed to hold them until the shop staff can got there. All the girl was shouting, in between her 'I'm innocent' speech, was that she would do us all for assault, that shop staff said that all they can do is to stand in front of the people and keep your arms at you side. and get in there way as they run.
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
That's a dangerous door to open...
Only for the criminal, and if you're interested in protecting his rights to rob you.
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I believe that there should be a right to defend youself with reasonable force and to take actions to make his task considerably more difficult. i.e. barbed wire.
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
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Death penalty as a deterrant for murder? Doesn't work.
As far as I remember, no one has ever commited a crime after they've been executed. As for providing a deterrance to other criminals, I don't care. I'm dealing out punishment, nothing else.
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But how does killing someone really punish them ?, they're out of it but there are other people life, friends and relations etc. who are also punished (by having someone removed from there lives) for the crime of the criminal.