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Originally Posted by s1lv3r
Lets have the reasons then.. as I asked in my previous post just in case you missed it 
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He's a homophobic bigot, simple as that. I appreciate that the bible, if interpreted literally, supports his statements, but many people have chosen to interpret the bible as something that should be looked upon in a different light depending on the current social climate. If people choose to use a literal interpretation of the bible to justify bigotry then I have absolutely no time for them.
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Originally Posted by s1lv3r
Things do not become fact purely because a lot of others believe the same thing.. which is also the reason why I would not push my own beliefs as fact but rather try to present persuasive evidence if I wanted to maintain any credibility.
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So when the Vatican starts telling people that condoms *never* work we are supposed to accept that. It is propganda and mis-information designed to further their own objectives. Preaching on the basis of religious doctrine is one thing, preaching on the basis of blantant lies should not be accepted.
*Edit* Strictly speaking nothing can be objectively proved, we have models that explain the behaviour of the universe and rules that have been derived from repeated observation, but none of these represent objective, absolute truth. So yes, something can become "fact" just because enough people believe in it.