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Originally Posted by Russ D

The problem these days is as soon as you appear to love Britain, the trouble-makers out there automatically take this to mean you hate other nations.

Very Well Said.

Originally Posted by Nor

Personally I think anyone should be allowed to move and live in Britain. I don't really care what colour, race, religion peopl are that live here but I'd want people to move here to have to fulfil certain criteria. If people want to move to Britain to live and work, they should be forced to learn English and I'd also like to see people become British Citizens.

I think one of the major problems with people immigrating to any country is integration. If those moving to Britain could speak English it would help everyone to integrate. Just as I dislike the way the English (scots probably do it too) move abroad and create little England I dislike the way people move to Britain and create their own little community within a city. We should all be living together, mixed and integrated, perhaps then we wouldn't have as many them and us scenarios.

So.... let people move to Britain if.. they learn English, they are a benefit to the country and will integrate with the British and respect the British culture rather than expect Brits to accomodate them. If I moved to France, I'd learn French and abide by their culture, I wouldn't expect everyone to go out of their way to accomodate me and it should be the same here.

I agree about learning English or whatever language is used in the country you want to immigrate to. i agree that when we english etc move abroad we make our own little communities but that is just why i believe immigration doesnt work. we see in our own actions how we cannot mix with other cultures. please understand me i am not applying this to everyone but what i feel is the majority. i agree about learning french if moving to france etc.

Originally Posted by aliferste

So what about Black scottish/english/welsh people?

Sometimes I think that people think that everyone they see that is non white is a "foreigner"

i think what you are asking me is do i apply the term foreigner to only black. are my views directed towards black people.

the answer to those questions is no. colour of skin has nothing to do with it. being a foreigner means living in a country that isnt your ancestory home land. for example a german living in france or a dutch living in england.

something your comments have got me thinking about is why i have less objection to dutch and french and german etc. well i would say its because those countries are somewhat similar to ours in that they are democratic and civilised. the countries i really dont like receiving immigrants and asylum seekers from are non democratic countries and uncivilised countries because they do crazy things. take for example that man in the muslim father whose daughter was dating an asylum seeker. he tried to break of the relationship but when his attempts failed he pretended to support the relationship, he got the asylum seeker job in his factory and then he hung him or something in the factory. the point im making is yes british people have evil tendencies but we are more civilised than other nations. there is a danger in immigration that u bring people who are uncivilised from uncivilised nations and they bring our country down.

Originally Posted by Popeye

what worries me is if
you even say 'British'
or display a union jack

it is immediately pounced on as being 'racist'
in some quarters"

indeed.