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Old 13-01-2004, 15:56   #46
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Re: Price increase

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Originally Posted by themelon
Sky only really have cheap deals on installation, taking these is generally a mistake anyway in my experience pay for a decent installation is my word of advice!! Other than that is damn well expensive and keeps on going up. When I left Sky the World Package was £34 I think thats less than 2 years ago, and now its £40.... ..........price rises well beyond inflation, what exactly is Skys reason??!!

BT its self isnt necessarily cheaper for calls, depending on you calling patterns it can be very pricey......not forgetting the Standard Plan (£9.50) which calls cost 7.9p a minute for day time national calls!! And Talk Unlimited 24 is also cheaper than the equivilent BT package. It is true their are good deals on a BT line, through different providers.......providing you can get an acceptible line quality in the first place!!
Sky quite often telephone their customers who are on the lower tier packages and offer them free or reduced price upgrades for a period

There is nothing wrong with the subsidised installs, mine have always been first class. You get good and bad installers with whoever you choose, paid for independents or subsidised installers. Sometimes the subsidised installers are independents who Sky have contracted. The same is true with NTL installers, some are very good and others are horrendously bad.

Maybe Sky prices have risen by more than the rate of inflation but not by as high a rate as my NTL package has increased. What is NTLs excuse for this when the quality of their services has decreased?

You forget to say in your telephony price comparisons that the BT standard plan includes £2.15 of free calls and that evening and weekend local calls are cheaper on this plan than with the NTL 3-2-1 plan. For the user who makes very few calls it is cheaper than anything NTL have to offer.

For those who make more calls then BTs 6p call plan is the same price as NTLs but does not suffer from the NTL 5p connection charge during peak weekday hours. Instead it offers discounts on calls at this time to your friends and family circle.

You also fail to show the comparison with the Talk Unlimited plan which is £1 cheaper with BT than NTL and again has no connection charge with BT during peak weekday hours and has the friends and family discounts.

The only plan where NTL is cheaper is the talk unlimited 24 which is £3.50 cheaper with NTL. Lets face it though, you have to be making a lot of peak weekday calls to geographic numbers to gain from this plan.

All in all, the best plan for most people is the BT Together 6p plan with judicial use of another provider (such as call18866) during peak weekday time and for very short offpeak calls. Not only do you have cheaper calls but also the ability to choose from many ADSL providers (if within the correct distance on an enabled exchange).
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