Just to throw in my 2ps worth.
I am under the impression that NTL would be very reluctant to enter into any such negotiations with this site for a few of the reasons below.
It is highly unlikely that NTL will want to get their fingers burnt again as they did in the past by their so called Mods/Admins deceiving them and lying to the members while all along taking NTLs money by way of payment for moderating the site when all along they putting back ups in place to move here.
Now I am not flaming here as I have accepted the current teams reasons for doing this.
There were at the time of .com certain Mods/Admin who abused their powers by putting their jack boots on jumping down on anyone who was remotely critical of the site which then fast tracked the idea of closure to NTL as the constant closing of threads was becoming a joke as far as NTL were concerned and the site was no longer being taken serious.
Ironically at this time NTL were pulling out all the stops to snoop and try and find out if the current team at the time were trying to assist the sites closure while they were setting up this one but it was all to no avail and was a pretty well kept secret.
I thought and still do think it was wrong of the team there at the time to single out individuals and blame them for the closure, they have contributed in a certain way but to single out certain individuals and even name them at one point was bang out of order when they themselves were happily contributing to the demise of a site they were being paid to moderate etc.
Smacks a bit of double standards, but life moves on and it happened.
I really donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t envy the person who is given the task of trying to convince NTL to enter into any form of negotiations with a Customer Based Panel in anyway connected with this site when they will know full well that some of the current team here were the same team that schemed and lied to them while on their payroll setting this place up as back up contingency for when their bubble finally burst.
The chance to negotiate with NTL was squandered the day the team over there decided to shaft them and set this site up as a back up, and no doubt they will be very unwilling to give you or anyone connected here with a second chance.
Without naming any names I agree in part with Erol posted some time ago and share the view that to get NTL to listen to the its users is not going to be done with certain members of the team here as they are not the most appropriate people to get the job done.
As I have said above and I will say again this is my personal opinion and I am not flaming anyone here as I have accepted the current teamâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s reasons for setting this site up and think up to now the site has become fair more successful than .com ever was in certain aspects.
Anyhow enough from me, I admire the sentiments and the idea of trying to set up the Customer Panel but whoever his labelled and given this task personally I really think you are fighting a losing battle here although I would love to be proved wrong.
