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Chrysalis · 27-12-2003, 12:37

well I think you will find that the difference between 20 gig a day and 30 gig a month is not something that can be ignored, 20 gig a day is abuse and 30 gig a month on a 2mbit service is very low, please don't assume that because someone doesnt like a limit fit for a much lower type of service that they want to download 24/7. Also everyday use can be classified as many things of course but if you were to buy 2mbit for web browsing, email and the odd driver download then you would be wasting your money my friend.

I thought of the following thoery

1 - NTL Never release a 2mbit product and keep the existing caps, resulting in high % of customers on lower teir products, but they have no need to upgrade infrastructure.

2 - NTL provide 2mbit but with the universal cap they have in place, even with the 30gig cap it would still be priced at a premium, low takeup would happen and NTL would probably get away with not upgrading infrastructure.

3 - NTL provide 2mbit and change the capping system accordingaly so now with each tier you get a higher cap leaving the 2mbit with a reasonable cap of approx 100-150gig a month, moderate takeup moving users from lower tiers to higher tiers increasing turnover for company and reputation but infrastructure would need an upgrade, unacceptable to NTL.

4 - NTL provide 2mbit and remove all capping, maximum reputation gain and growth, but infrastructure could cripple without proper upgrading. This would never happen.

Of course there are people here saying they are happily downloading tiny amounts of data and just want burst speed but that costs the isp nothing, normally on flat rate internet services such as what we have here when you pay for more speed the isp assumes you are going to download more thats why it costs more, but NTL are playing a fool's game where there is no extra bandwidth on the higher speed packages and they still charge more, I believe I have NEVER seen this on another isp anywhere.

(we know caps are not currently enforced but NTL did try to pull this off)

27-12-2003, 12:37	#53
Chrysalis cf.mega poster Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 12,048	Re: 2mbit NTL BB Campaign well I think you will find that the difference between 20 gig a day and 30 gig a month is not something that can be ignored, 20 gig a day is abuse and 30 gig a month on a 2mbit service is very low, please don't assume that because someone doesnt like a limit fit for a much lower type of service that they want to download 24/7. Also everyday use can be classified as many things of course but if you were to buy 2mbit for web browsing, email and the odd driver download then you would be wasting your money my friend. I thought of the following thoery 1 - NTL Never release a 2mbit product and keep the existing caps, resulting in high % of customers on lower teir products, but they have no need to upgrade infrastructure. 2 - NTL provide 2mbit but with the universal cap they have in place, even with the 30gig cap it would still be priced at a premium, low takeup would happen and NTL would probably get away with not upgrading infrastructure. 3 - NTL provide 2mbit and change the capping system accordingaly so now with each tier you get a higher cap leaving the 2mbit with a reasonable cap of approx 100-150gig a month, moderate takeup moving users from lower tiers to higher tiers increasing turnover for company and reputation but infrastructure would need an upgrade, unacceptable to NTL. 4 - NTL provide 2mbit and remove all capping, maximum reputation gain and growth, but infrastructure could cripple without proper upgrading. This would never happen. Of course there are people here saying they are happily downloading tiny amounts of data and just want burst speed but that costs the isp nothing, normally on flat rate internet services such as what we have here when you pay for more speed the isp assumes you are going to download more thats why it costs more, but NTL are playing a fool's game where there is no extra bandwidth on the higher speed packages and they still charge more, I believe I have NEVER seen this on another isp anywhere. (we know caps are not currently enforced but NTL did try to pull this off)