90 Day Notice for Network Engineers
 

Well today is the day we, the Network Engineers get put "At-Risk", 90 days of hell.
Not much more to say!

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All i can say is i wish you all luck. I for one want them to keep the network internal not farm it out.

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The company I worked for kept telling us our jobs were at risk about every 12 months, doesn't motivate you. Was glad when I got out, no regrets.

Good luck, hope things work out for you.

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Good luck, and get your cv up to date and out on the market (to beat the rush).

I was made redundant two months ago, so I share your (anticipated) pain (but to be fair, the weather has been brilliant, and I did get to see the World Cup and Wimbledon on TV). :)

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Announced in a meeting this morning that 109 techs are to be made redundant and 54 moving to Business, apparently its not clear if the 54 are from the 109 or an extra 54.

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The 54 are not part of the 109 :-( 54 are going Business from the Telewest side, then 20 percent from all sides to go which equals 109 engineers. But, most of the Telewest boys are not Dual trained (CATV & Telco), they also have "Core Network Techs", which to ex-Nynex are Activation. so I suspect Telewest bods will take the major hit:Yikes:

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Which at the end of the day means even less engineers working on the network, Even less preventive maintenance "which i am lead to believe now no longer takes place at all" Even less core knowledge left in Network in the case of a major event. Sad day for those that lose there job and a devastating day for customers who can now look forward to even longer fix times and less engineers to look after the network.


So whats next Engineers flown in each day from Bombay with a sat nav and a electronic dictionary :Yikes:.

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I want a job network engineering at ntl but looks like i never will :(

had a call today about a ntl call centre job and have the telephone interview later but dont fancy it will probably get outsourced to india after a few months anyway

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Apparently the meeting in South Wales was held by managers who didn't seem to know anything. The question was asked about the 54, and they didn't know the answer. Knowing the two main managers who would of conducted the meeting, I would say they wouldn't really give a sh*t about the 54 or 109, they are the type who only think of themselves.

That type are the ones who have survived.

The one good think to come out of it today, was when I was chatting to an ntl guy. He is in Headends so not affected (yet), he was however with one of the network guys. The network guy who I have known for many years (almost 20) sounded quite happy, he is hoping they will accept his offer and pick him to get out of the place.

Oh well, another 109 going and probably more to follow. I wonder how many more redundancies it will take to make the company a viable concern.:rolleyes:

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What worries me the most is the brain drain.

They must be getting to a point now where those that built the network are all gone.

Those that have sense and the ability to move jobs will grab the redundancy which will then leave those that wanted it but were refused. These Engineers will then be worked off there feet doing the work of those that have left. They will just get even more demoralised and will work from month to month hoping for the next round of redundancies.

Then there are those that do not want it because they would not be able to con another company. They know who they are.

There are a lot of very good engineers still in NTL however there are some that just don't cut the mustard and will resist redundancy with all there might "sucking up to managers and such" and its these that Ntl and Telewest should get rid off. However these same people will be the ones that will support the **** managers that always seem to survive when the good ones get the boot.


I wish those that are made redundant well and hope you find better jobs out in the real world where you will be treated with the respect you should have and dont get from NTL.

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To all of those who might be affected, I am sorry for you.

I just hope that NTL doesn't go the way my employer went in that they announced so many at risk periods (5 over a 4 year period I think) that even when they said 'This is the last one' nobody believed them with morale at rock bottom.

Unlimited - You missed out one vital point:
Those that wanted redundancy but were turned down as being too important will be the ones who leave anyway because they can.

That's exactly how things worked out at our company anyway. :(

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As I always say ntl is run by sales people who have not one technical bone in there body, they think as they can monitor the network remotely its ok to reduce the already overstretched network guys, but they do not understand that they are only monitoring the return path, also as there is no preventative maintenance getting done only "fire fighting" the network WILL fall over very soon, some cabs and muxes I have seen you can not close the door as they have not had a audit for years and splitters are now a common place in cabs, naughty installers, but that's not there fault.

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what is interesting is that the idea of 'marketing led' companies, underpinned by enterprise capital is now up and running, how that actually performs may ultmately define our society ???

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The biggest pain in the a$$ for us at the moment, is the fact that they don't know how many engineers are going from each area (or so they claim).

We don't know if it's 1, 2, 3 or 4 in my area. It has taken them three months to get figures together, but they can not tell us what the local impact will be.

Moral is rock bottom right now, we have ended up with more questions than answers from the presentation and we are fearing what the knock on effect will be to the Network.

I was banging on the other week about return path issues with people using sub standard splits and cable, now it's going to get a whole lot harder to keep on top of those kind of things.

But there are some of us that are either stupid or stubborn (me) that want's to keep working for NTL, I want to try to keep making that little bit of a difference, but I will have to wait and see what the cull will be and what my area will be reduced too...

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what are side affects of splitters?

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TO add I thought virgin were supposedbly wanting to improve the quality of the service, this shows they are just as not bothered as the old ntl regime.