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kronas 05-12-2003 02:48

ban urged on smoking
 
the lancet medical journal has urged the government to ban smoking in the uk totally it published its findings which have suggested passive smoking kills and the fact that its costing the NHS £1.5bn pounds to treat smoking related illnesses

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3292979.stm

the report does go on to mention smoking is a £9.3bn revenue generator although in my view a complete ban to add it to the illegal substances list as suggested would be something i would completely back as it kills many people in the uk who dont even smoke but the loss of revenue may make the government think twice about a ban

Shaun 05-12-2003 03:08

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Originally Posted by kronas
the lancet medical journal has urged the government to ban smoking in the uk totally it published its findings which have suggested passive smoking kills and the fact that its costing the NHS £1.5bn pounds to treat smoking related illnesses

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3292979.stm

the report does go on to mention smoking is a £9.3bn revenue generator although in my view a complete ban to add it to the illegal substances list as suggested would be something i would completely back as it kills many people in the uk who dont even smoke but the loss of revenue may make the government think twice about a ban

Should be brought in ASAP as far as I'm concerned.

kronas 05-12-2003 03:12

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Originally Posted by dellwear
Should be brought in ASAP as far as I'm concerned.


as im an anti smoker per say i fully back a ban but how would you make up for lost revenue ?

bopdude 05-12-2003 03:34

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It will never happen, but IF it did it would only drive it underground and we would have yet another banned substance being plied to the " addicts " by organised crime etc etc.

Plus the governvent could not afford it as stated previously

Salu 05-12-2003 12:46

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I agree in principle although I think that people should have a right to smoke. What really needs addressing how their right to smoke, effects others when they are smoking. In other words, the passive effect.

I certainly feel that there ought to be a ban on smoking in public places. New Zealand have just done this....good on them.

If someone chooses to smoke on their own in their own house then I have no problem with that. But I HATE having smoke blown over me when I am eating for example. And I really don't appreciate going home smelling of smoke until I shower just because I went to the pub.

I used to be a cardiorespiratory technician and not everyone knows that smoking is responsible for at last 111 different pathologies. I remember one guy who lost his feet then his legs due to smoking. He then had a heart attack but eventually died due to a Pulmonary Embolism. Which is a clot of blood that gets stuck in the blood supply to the lungs. If he hadn't had smoked he probably would be here today...

Bifta 05-12-2003 12:51

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The government get's around 7-8 billion in excise duty and nearly 2 billion in VAT on cigarettes per year ... take 1.5 billion out and give it to the NHS .. what's the problem?

http://www.forestonline.org/output/page22.asp

orangebird 05-12-2003 12:59

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Originally Posted by Bifta
The government get's around 7-8 billion in excise duty and nearly 2 billion in VAT on cigarettes per year ... take 1.5 billion out and give it to the NHS .. what's the problem?


My thoughts exactly. :smokin:

Ramrod 05-12-2003 13:19

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Ban it now. It's absolute lunacy to smoke and shouldn't be allowed.
(not that it'll ever happen)

Paul 05-12-2003 13:46

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If it was banned then all the lost money would have to be got back by increasing the taxes on me !!

Please smokers, carry on as much as you like and keeping my taxes down. :D

orangebird 05-12-2003 13:48

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Originally Posted by pem
If it was banned then all the lost money would have to be got back by increasing the taxes on me !!

Please smokers, carry on as much as you like and keeping my taxes down. :D

Cheers Pem :smokin: :cool:

Nemesis 05-12-2003 13:50

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Originally Posted by pem
If it was banned then all the lost money would have to be got back by increasing the taxes on me !!

Please smokers, carry on as much as you like and keeping my taxes down. :D

Yep Thanks ..... I'll be round the back having a fag :D :smokin:

Chris 05-12-2003 13:52

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I don't think an outright ban is practical. By all means ban it in public - I, too, hate coming home from an evening out smelling like an ashtray just so people nearby can enjoy committing slow suicide - but if people want to do it at home, and contribute a fortune to the exchequer at the same time, thus helping keep my taxes lower ... well, I can live with that.

kronas 05-12-2003 19:02

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Ban it now. It's absolute lunacy to smoke and shouldn't be allowed.

i agree with you smoking has no positives except for the tax we get back from smokers but its just such a disgusting habit it kills you or effects your health in a big way

as stated before it wont happen but a public ban is the way forward

th'engineer 05-12-2003 19:07

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Originally Posted by kronas
i agree with you smoking has no positives except for the tax we get back from smokers but its just such a disgusting habit it kills you or effects your health in a big way

as stated before it wont happen but a public ban is the way forward

Yes it has to those who smoke:smokin:

Shaun 05-12-2003 19:46

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Originally Posted by towny
I don't think an outright ban is practical. By all means ban it in public - I, too, hate coming home from an evening out smelling like an ashtray just so people nearby can enjoy committing slow suicide - but if people want to do it at home, and contribute a fortune to the exchequer at the same time, thus helping keep my taxes lower ... well, I can live with that.

I think the only way to ban it would be a rolling ban, move the age limit up a year each year until everyone is excluded. That way the country could adjust slowly to the change in tax revenue slowly.


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