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LSainsbury 11-03-2006 20:54

Accelerator jam car hits 135mph
 
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A motorist drove for 60 miles at speeds of 135mph after the accelerator on his BMW car jammed and his brakes failed.
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My first thought was to simply switch of the engine - but keep the key in so the steering lock would not engage....

What would you have done?

Russ 11-03-2006 20:57

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I reckon it was just a typical BMW driver fancying a good speeding session without hassle from those pesky police :D

LSainsbury 11-03-2006 21:05

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...and what if BMW come back with a result of NFF....will the police nick him? :D

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Just found another version of the story.

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He tried but was unable to get the automatic car into neutral and did not turn off the ignition for fear of disabling the power steering.

You what? Slightly heavier steering than normal OR 135mph into a back of a lorry...I know which option I'd go for...

greencreeper 11-03-2006 21:06

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Switching off the ignition might have disabled various other features, such as power steering and ABS. Modern cars for you - run on electrics. I've have put my foot down. Given that the brakes, gears and accelerator had gone, pretty much only the engine left, so flogging it might cause it to explode.

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Originally Posted by lsainsbury
You what? Slightly heavier steering than normal OR 135mph into a back of a lorry...I know which option I'd go for...

No power steering is bad - it's worse than no power steering.

Russ 11-03-2006 21:07

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Originally Posted by greencreeper
Switching off the ignition might have disabled various other features, such as power steering and ABS. Modern cars for you - run on electrics. I've have put my foot down. Given that the brakes, gears and accelerator had gone, pretty much only the engine left, so flogging it might cause it to explode.

It's a Beemer though - engines like that can usually take a good wellying.

greencreeper 11-03-2006 21:10

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Originally Posted by Russ D
It's a Beemer though - engines like that can usually take a good wellying.

With the miles on the clock it had, it had taken a wellying :D Might have been one welly too far, was my thinking. Mind you, might have ended up like a tin of corned beef in a fly-over support. Life for you. One minute a tin of Roses, the next a tin of manky cow.

Chimaera 11-03-2006 21:15

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I'm waiting for the engineer's report on the car! ;)

LSainsbury 11-03-2006 21:22

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greencreeper - Yes - but the engine would have also "shutdown" as well wouldn't it?

greencreeper 11-03-2006 23:48

Re: Accelerator jam car hits 135mph
 
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Originally Posted by lsainsbury
greencreeper - Yes - but the engine would have also "shutdown" as well wouldn't it?

Well yes, but at 135 mph I wouldn't fancy trying to steer a car that should have power steering but hasn't, and/or stop a car with no brakes. Be quicker just to drive into a concrete support and test the NCAP rating.

I never passed my test. Just as well really :D I'm too emotional - no control over them and too empathic. As a result, I do everything in life badly.

Stuart 12-03-2006 00:08

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I have to admit, I agree with GC here. When the brakes failed in my friends car,an elderly suzuki, it was terrifying (I was a passenger), but he was able to use the gears to slow the car to a speed where he could coast to a stop.

Of course, jamming the car into first at >70 MPH nearly blew up the engine (making a horrible noise), but it did stop.

This guy didn't have that option (no gears).

I suppose another option (depending on the layout of the motorway) might have been to steer the car off the motorway and use the land to slow the car a bit. Of course, that is assuming there are fields either side of the motorway. Not much use if it went through a small town.

Nikko 12-03-2006 01:21

Re: Accelerator jam car hits 135mph
 
Power steering is only useful at low speeds, especially when parking, etc. At high speeds a lot of high performance manufacturers take steps to calm it down - ie give the steering more 'feel'

What you do NOT want is for the steering lock to engage whilst mobile, rendering the car unsteerable.

So in the circumstance described, if the brakes are unable to restrain a racing engine connected to an automatic, and, unusually, you are unable to disengage the transmission (due, one assumes, to a totally isolated and unconnected failure) select a straight bit of road, turn off the ignition, ideally back to the accessory position, and keep standing on the brake. If you find the steering locks, turn the key back to the next position as you have gone past accessory to off. Whilst this may appear fiddly, you are doing 35 not 135 and even if you hit a roundabout via the hard shoulder, chances are you will not roll it.

AndrewJ 12-03-2006 01:45

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Did he check if he used the indicators, that the car may return to control...

handyman 12-03-2006 03:36

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This car would have got to 135 within a minute. Lets face it with the benefit of the time to think it over we can all go over the pros and cons of the various options but if your in a car at 135mph and possibly with no experience at that speed your not likely to want a option thats possibly going to lock the steering.

Nidge 12-03-2006 06:26

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I'm keeping an open mind on this one, I can smell a rat. I know the A1 that runs through Notts like the back of my hand, there are a few bends just before Doncaster that he'd not have gotten round doing 135mph. Like I said I can smell a rat.

etccarmageddon 12-03-2006 09:32

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I smell bull too.


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