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chunky chadders 31-01-2006 08:48

ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
I am thinking of getting ntl and having the 10 meg Broadband , i have 2 pc's in the same room Whats the best wireless router to get.

Aragorn 31-01-2006 09:01

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
:welcome: to CF

If you have a look in the 'Networking' sub-forum you will find numerous recommendations threads (esp the sticky thread at the top).

A lot of people here, me included, use the Linksys WRT54G.

__spc__ 31-01-2006 10:12

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Since 8 Mbps (megabits per second) = 1 MB/sec (megabytes per
second), 54Mbps = 6.75MB/sec.

Actual throughput (I believe) is half, so at best, you'll get 3-3.5MB/sec transfer speeds on a 54g WiFi connection. Depending on the siting of your clients and router, interference will reduce this rate, as will encryption.

Summary: if you're on a 3MB connection or higher and using WiFi, you'll take a performance hit.

jellybaby 31-01-2006 10:19

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by __spc__
Since 8 Mbps (megabits per second) = 1 MB/sec (megabytes per
second), 54Mbps = 6.75MB/sec.

Actual throughput (I believe) is half, so at best, you'll get 3-3.5MB/sec transfer speeds on a 54g WiFi connection. Depending on the siting of your clients and router, interference will reduce this rate, as will encryption.

Summary: if you're on a 3MB connection or higher and using WiFi, you'll take a performance hit.


:confused: Don't think your right there

---------- Post added at 10:16 ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 ----------

Infact, I've got a 11b router on 10 meg, and I can get 4-5 MB/sec from it

---------- Post added at 10:19 ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 ----------

Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:18:03 GMT

1st 512K took 921 ms = 555.9 KB/sec, approx 4225 Kbps, 4.1 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1032 ms = 496.1 KB/sec, approx 3770 Kbps, 3.7 Mbps
3rd 512K took 821 ms = 623.6 KB/sec, approx 4739 Kbps, 4.6 Mbps
4th 512K took 861 ms = 594.7 KB/sec, approx 4520 Kbps, 4.4 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4314 Kbps, 4.2 Mbps

punky 31-01-2006 10:37

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jellybaby
:confused: Don't think your right there

Infact, I've got a 11b router on 10 meg, and I can get 4-5 MB/sec from it

Are you using wired connection though? The B or G speed part only refers to wireless. I believe virtually all routers sold in the last few years have been 100mbps for wired connections.

jellybaby 31-01-2006 10:53

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Wireless

punky 31-01-2006 11:15

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by __spc__
Since 8 Mbps (megabits per second) = 1 MB/sec (megabytes per
second), 54Mbps = 6.75MB/sec.

Actual throughput (I believe) is half, so at best, you'll get 3-3.5MB/sec transfer speeds on a 54g WiFi connection. Depending on the siting of your clients and router, interference will reduce this rate, as will encryption.

Summary: if you're on a 3MB connection or higher and using WiFi, you'll take a performance hit.

I think you're confusing mbps raw bandwidth with mb/sec transfer rate? Downloading at 3mbps (like the 3meg services) isn't the same as 3mb/sec. On 3meg, you'd get 375k/sec without a router. On 10mbps, you'd only get 1.25mb/sec

lordy 31-01-2006 11:22

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by __spc__
Since 8 Mbps (megabits per second) = 1 MB/sec (megabytes per
second), 54Mbps = 6.75MB/sec.

Actual throughput (I believe) is half, so at best, you'll get 3-3.5MB/sec transfer speeds on a 54g WiFi connection. Depending on the siting of your clients and router, interference will reduce this rate, as will encryption.

Summary: if you're on a 3MB connection or higher and using WiFi, you'll take a performance hit.

As others have said,

Generally you factor by 9 or 10 to allow for network overhead
so 8mbps = approx 0.9 Mb/s
and 54Mb/s = 54 Mb/s :)

Remember 54Mb/s is half of ethernet 100Mb/s so I think it can handle
10mbps(approx 1Mb/s) over the net.

Lordy

__spc__ 31-01-2006 17:27

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Eeek!

Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:24:49 UTC

1st 512K took 4336 ms = 118.1 KB/sec, approx 973 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 4326 ms = 118.4 KB/sec, approx 976 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4327 ms = 118.3 KB/sec, approx 975 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
4th 512K took 4316 ms = 118.6 KB/sec, approx 977 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 975 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps

1Mbps pipe over 54g at full 54Mbps WiFi connection.

Apart from cabling, any suggestions?!

punky 31-01-2006 17:33

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by __spc__
Eeek!

Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:24:49 UTC

1st 512K took 4336 ms = 118.1 KB/sec, approx 973 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 4326 ms = 118.4 KB/sec, approx 976 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4327 ms = 118.3 KB/sec, approx 975 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
4th 512K took 4316 ms = 118.6 KB/sec, approx 977 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 975 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps

1Mbps pipe over 54g at full 54Mbps WiFi connection.

Apart from cabling, any suggestions?!

I'd say that's acceptable for 1mbps. The max speed is 125k/s minus overheads, and you are getting 118k/s I'd say thats respectable. You're within 0.05mbps = 50kbps, which is a dialup modem's difference. Neglible with 1meg :)

MovedGoalPosts 31-01-2006 18:35

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Moved to Networking

__spc__ 01-02-2006 08:36

Re: ntl 10 meg Which Wireless router ?
 
Thanks punky,

I must have had a brain seizure - 0.95Mbps from a 1.0Mbps connection is pretty good! (What was I expecting??!!).


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