Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Current Affairs (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   Dumbing down science syllabus (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=35671)

Ramrod 26-09-2005 10:35

Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

PUPILS at GCSE are to be allowed to abandon learning traditional †œhardâà ƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ � science, including the meaning of the periodic table, in favour of †œsoftâà ƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ � science such as the benefits of genetic engineering and healthy eating.

The statutory requirement for pupils to learn a science subject will be watered down under a new curriculum introduced next year. There will be no compulsion to master the periodic table †” the basis of chemistry †” nor basic scientific laws that have informed the work of all the great scientists such as Newton and Einstein.
This country really is going down the tubes :(

link

marky 26-09-2005 10:46

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
So the exams will be easier, the kids will get higher grades and in so making them look smarter,

Bad idea :td:

punky 26-09-2005 10:54

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
I think kids should be taught both "hard" and "soft" sciences... Not one over the other.

Ramrod 26-09-2005 11:12

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
It looks like the real education will take place in private schools, widening the gap between state and private pupils even further....

nffc 26-09-2005 11:30

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Scandal.

Angua 26-09-2005 12:38

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Tis nothing new.

When I was at school (pre GCSE days) you had to do at least one science subject of which there were 4 choices, Chemistry, Biology, Physics and "Project Science". I did the latter which involved several areas of interest including Photography, Astronomy, Communications, Practical electrics, Metalurgy and a one other which I can't remember now.

Photography included making our own cameras and film right through to darkroom developing and framing a subject. Communications included Egyptian Heroglyphs through to Morse Code and Radio.

I found it a great alternative to "hard" science, for which I had no interest whatsoever.

What I think this latest thing is for, is to try and re-introduce some form of cookery lession back into the curriculum (all be it under the guise of science). Which given the microwave and ready meals is a skill sadly lacking in childrens upbringing these days.

nffc 26-09-2005 12:42

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Well, it's a decent idea to introduce "relevant" science but it should be to supplement the three core sciences, and to apply theory NOT instead of.

There's already a shortage of science students as it is.

jrhnewark 26-09-2005 18:36

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
"Master the periodic table"..?

What's there to master at GCSE? You learn the halogens, the alkali metals and the transititions. If you do triple award, you learn more about ionic and covalent compounds, etc.

Newtons' Laws. How many people actually know what they are? Few, I should think.

Step in the wrong direction, as far as I can see. I emmensly enjoyed the DNA and human genome side of Biology at GCSEs and thought it was very worthwhile, so genetic engineering is fine as far as I can see.

Healthy eating isn't a science, it's something monkeys can do. With all this waste of time with 'Citizenship' and 'PSHE', can't 'healthy eating' be covered in that?

We might have a lot of 14 year olds that know that racism is bad, but nobody's going to teach them who David Blunkett is.

Teaching? "Healthy eating" lessons sound more like spoonfeeding to me.

cookie_365 26-09-2005 18:39

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
This country really is going down the tubes :(

link

Why? I've never come across any circumstance whatsoever where knowing the periodic table would come in useful.

Chimaera 26-09-2005 18:41

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie_365
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
This country really is going down the tubes :(

link

Why? I've never come across any circumstance whatsoever where knowing the periodic table would come in useful.

Quiz nights? :confused:

I suppose it's useful if you are going to study chemistry at a higher level though.

marky 26-09-2005 18:42

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie_365
Why? I've never come across any circumstance whatsoever where knowing the periodic table would come in useful.

In that case grab the co2 and put the fire out ;)

jrhnewark 26-09-2005 19:01

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie_365
Why? I've never come across any circumstance whatsoever where knowing the periodic table would come in useful.

I've never found perpendicular bisectors useful outside of maths class, should I be complaining?

Or do you want to undertake some sort of massive educational rethink? ;)

cookie_365 26-09-2005 19:05

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marky
In that case grab the co2 and put the fire out ;)

Errrr .... :erm: ???? What ????
__________________

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrhnewark
I've never found perpendicular bisectors useful outside of maths class, should I be complaining?

Or do you want to undertake some sort of massive educational rethink? ;)

Never found them that useful inside of maths either ;)

I'm just saying that rather than say 'isn't it terrible they're dropping this traditional subject' we should be thinking about why children study particular subjects in the first place, and if we can make room for useful subjects like nutrition by edging out the, err, less widely required ones, that's got to be a good thing surely ??

Maggy 26-09-2005 19:12

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Incog gets out her deckchair and the iced tea. :)


I want a deckchair smiley... ;)

Bex 26-09-2005 19:16

Re: Dumbing down science syllabus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookie_365
Why? I've never come across any circumstance whatsoever where knowing the periodic table would come in useful.

i guess it all depends what sort of job you end up doing..

i actually read this this morning in the metro (classy paper i know) I can understand the reasoning for those who really can't cope with "hard" science but I do not think it should replace the option to learn it totally


All times are GMT. The time now is 13:05.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum