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Dude111 20-12-2025 15:14

Apparently spitting out a wind-blown leaf is a real money maker. An "environmental crime" as it were.

http://people.com/man-fined-for-litt...mouth-11866538

Absolutely insane!!

Paul 20-12-2025 18:46

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
They were not "Cops", they were [council] enforcement officers, not the same thing.

Pierre 20-12-2025 20:54

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
You can just ignore them, and walk away. They have very little powers.

Dude111 21-12-2025 02:45

Wow really??

Why do they bother anyone then,you would think everyone would walk off!! (Well this guy didnt)

VX1953 22-12-2025 15:25

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
The height of stupidity for disposing of a leaf from one's mouth, how much lower can this country go !

Pierre 23-12-2025 00:16

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36208050)
Wow really??

Why do they bother anyone then,you would think everyone would walk off!! (Well this guy didnt)

It’s the hi-vis vest and clip board syndrome.

They’re usually dressed to look like police, they’re not but people immediately think they have authority, when they’re usually private companies working for the council that get revenue from the penalty charges they issue.

Dude111 23-12-2025 07:30

Can they do anything if someone ends up not paying a ticket these people give them?

Pierre 23-12-2025 21:12

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36208115)
Can they do anything if someone ends up not paying a ticket these people give them?

If you don’t give them your name and details, which you are not compelled to do, they can’t issue a ticket to you, for you to pay.

Paul 23-12-2025 23:25

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36208143)
If you don’t give them your name and details, which you are not compelled to do, they can’t issue a ticket to you, for you to pay.

Sure about that ?

Online research would suggest otherwise.

Quote:

Yes, you must give your full name and address to an Environmental Enforcement Officer if they suspect you've committed an environmental offense (like littering or fly-tipping) and are issuing a Fixed Penalty Notice (FPN), as refusing or giving false details is a criminal offense under the Environmental Protection Act
Of course, they would need to confirm your identity some other way, and then report you to the police, note that most these days apparently wear body cams.

Pierre 24-12-2025 00:01

Re: British Cops Fine Elderly Man For Choking On Leaf?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36208152)
Sure about that ?

Online research would suggest otherwise.

Of course, they would need to confirm your identity some other way, and then report you to the police, note that most these days apparently wear body cams.

I have to admit, majority of my knowledge of this is from online videos, of which I’ve watch many.

Though I would say, they have no powers to detain you. So you can just walk away. They can call the police, god luck, but they would need proof of the offence, and in what I’ve seen, much of it is only their observation not necessarily caught on camera.

They can record you but if they have no details… (we must resist digital ID!)

Bottom line is they’re opportunists, they want you to succumb to their faux powers, and usually any push back is not met with resistance as it’s not worth them fighting, just keep going after the weaker.

Very similar to fighting, or ignoring, Parking Notice Charge (not a Penalty Notice Charge), I’ve successfully batted two of these away and currently on my third.

Dude111 24-12-2025 17:59

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Originally Posted by VX1953
The height of stupidity for disposing of a leaf from one's mouth, how much lower can this country go !

Yes this is more like something that would be done in the US!! (Giving a fine for that)


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