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Chris 30-05-2024 09:24

The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Here we are already…

Please continue all discussion here, and vote again in our fresh, new poll, so we can see if the campaign has changed your mind so far.

For reference, previous discussion is here: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33712705 feel free to carry over any comments from that thread you wish to reply to here.

ianch99 30-05-2024 12:07

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36175958)
Why should someone earning over 100k per year have the same personal tax allowance as someone earning less than that ?

The 100k threshold is a very arbitrary one. The threshold is very punitive when you just go over it so it is not really fit for purpose. It is part of the narrative that the only taxation that should be discussed is Income when so much is gained (by so few) through non-Income sources e.g. asset appreciation, dividends, etc.

Taxation of the ultra-wealthy is one of the things that Labour should consider to fund the required public sector investment but I suspect that, for now, they are too scared viz. not dropping the Ming vase.

Chris 30-05-2024 12:59

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
There was some chat on the BBC Electioncast podcast last week about the difference between Labour in 1997 and now. In 1997 Labour pledged to stick to Tory tax/spend plans for 2 years. In 2024 their position amounts to basically the same. The problem is in 1997 the economy was good, and improving. Now, it’s in the toilet. Not changing anything now risks everything still being in the toilet midway through their first term. But as you say, they don’t want to risk dropping the Ming vase.

denphone 30-05-2024 13:14

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Not much change in the Cable Forum opinion polling as we go into the second week of the election campaign.;)

Hom3r 30-05-2024 13:28

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
I wonder if people will spoil their ballot paper, as far as I see it's better than not voting.

Mind you it did backfire on one voter.

He drew a phallic in the box of one of the candidates, they did consider it a spoilt ballot, but it was drawn inside the box, so gave it to that candidate.

Myself and my father will again do the postal vote.

Frazz 30-05-2024 14:33

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
I'll vote for the only candidate that'll beat the SNP who have een an abject failure for Scotland. I wouldn't normally vote Lib Dem but needs must to get rid of the cancer that's the SNP

Chris 30-05-2024 14:41

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36176088)
I'll vote for the only candidate that'll beat the SNP who have een an abject failure for Scotland. I wouldn't normally vote Lib Dem but needs must to get rid of the cancer that's the SNP

Oddly enough when I moved house in 2022 I had to come to terms with the fact I’d have to vote Labour for the first time in my life, in order to get the Nat out. Little did I realise the clown car that is the present Tory government was already conspiring to be so utterly awful I would be actively wanting to see the back of them just 2 years later. I notice Jo Swinson’s not having another go in your neck of the woods though, which is a pity.

Russ 30-05-2024 15:36

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Rushi - the gift that keeps on giving. Has there ever been a more gaff-filled election campaign before? Even BS’ing Boris couldn’t manage all this.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...paign=sharebar

denphone 30-05-2024 17:44

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Former Conservative MP Mark Logan has said he is backing Labour at the next general election, saying the party could "bring back optimism into British life".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11kvk1je4o

Quote:

In an exclusive interview with BBC News, Mr Logan, who represented Bolton North East for the Tories until Parliament dissolved on Thursday, said Labour had been on a "journey" and now offered "centrist politics".

He added that the Tory Party was now "unrecognisable" from the party he joined a decade ago.

Mr Logan won his seat with a majority of just 378 in 2019, making it one of the most marginal in the country.

He said his application to join Labour was "going in today

Hugh 30-05-2024 17:46

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Former Tory MP backs Labour at general election

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd11kvk1je4o

Quote:

Former Conservative MP Mark Logan has said he is backing Labour at the next general election, saying the party could "bring back optimism into British life".

In an exclusive interview with BBC News, Mr Logan, who represented Bolton North East for the Tories until Parliament dissolved on Thursday, said Labour had been on a "journey" and now offered "centrist politics".

He added that the Tory Party was now "unrecognisable" from the party he joined a decade ago.

Mr Logan won his seat with a majority of just 378 in 2019, making it one of the most marginal in the country.

He said his application to join Labour was "going in today".

Mr Logan, who supported Brexit, is standing down at this election and Labour has already chosen a candidate for his former constituency.


Mr K 30-05-2024 19:38

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
'Logan's Run'. What a great film :)

Deeply suspicious of these baddies who suddenly decide they're goodies when doomsday comes.

Chris 31-05-2024 08:07

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Scotland In Union, a pro-UK campaigning organisation set up after the 2014 referendum to ensure there is always a baseline of co-ordinated public advocacy for Scotland’s place in the UK, has launched its 2024 tactical voting website. If your priority is to ‘get the Nat out’ then they can tell you who you should vote for in your constituency to have the best chance.

https://tacticalvotescotland.uk/

Hugh 31-05-2024 12:46

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ory-candidate/

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Less than 48 hours after he quit LBC to stand for Tunbridge Wells, Iain Dale has now ruled himself out. In an interview with his former employer this morning, Dale revealed that he had asked for his name to not be included on the candidates’ shortlist after a clip of him disparaging his home town went viral on Twitter. The comments, recorded in 2022, were made on the For the Many podcast which he co-hosts with former Home Secretary Jacqui Smith. In the clip Dale said that he ‘did not like living in Tunbridge Wells and would quite happily live somewhere else.’

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Julian Knight standing as an Independent in Solihull, and Aaron Bell not standing again in Newcastle-under-Lyme.

1andrew1 31-05-2024 14:01

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36176153)

That's a classic! You think someone in the media would be aware of what he had previously said.

RichardCoulter 31-05-2024 14:57

Re: The traditional CF voting intentions thread, week 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36176091)
Rushi - the gift that keeps on giving. Has there ever been a more gaff-filled election campaign before? Even BS’ing Boris couldn’t manage all this.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...paign=sharebar

Saw something earlier where he was facing the wrong way to the crowd he was supposed to be addressing!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36176085)
I wonder if people will spoil their ballot paper, as far as I see it's better than not voting.

Mind you it did backfire on one voter.

He drew a phallic in the box of one of the candidates, they did consider it a spoilt ballot, but it was drawn inside the box, so gave it to that candidate.

Myself and my father will again do the postal vote.

Yes, although the instructions are to vote with a cross in pencil, in practice any clear indication of who a person is voting for as deemed by election staff is accepted as a vote.


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