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Paul	28-08-2023 15:12

Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

Thousands hit by delays on busy bank holiday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66637156

jfman

28-08-2023 15:53

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

Russians.

Hugh	28-08-2023 16:56

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

Crap Change Management or lack of appropriate Resilience…

Quote:

We have identified and remedied the technical issue affecting our flight planning system this morning. We are now working closely with airlines and airports to manage the flights affected as efficiently as possible. Our engineers will be carefully monitoring the system’s performance as we return to normal operations.

The flight planning issue affected the system’s ability to automatically process flight plans, meaning that flight plans had to be processed manually which cannot be done at the same volume, hence the requirement for traffic flow restrictions.

https://t.co/YJO7NyZKxs

Ms NTL

28-08-2023 17:03

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

Is this due to Indian IT staff that Sunak brought in from his father-in-law company?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66637817

Chris

28-08-2023 17:07

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

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Originally Posted by Ms NTL (Post 36159386)

Is this due to Indian IT staff that Sunak brought in from his father-in-law company?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66637817

No, I suspect jfman’s probably right on this. Russian cyber ops. This, and a half dozen other major IT failures of one sort or another in recent months.

Ms NTL

28-08-2023 17:24

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36159384)

Crap Change Management or lack of appropriate Resilience…

https://t.co/YJO7NyZKxs

This type of fault has happened umpteen times, nothing new here

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36159387)

No, I suspect jfman’s probably right on this. Russian cyber ops. This, and a half dozen other major IT failures of one sort or another in recent months.

It was a rhetorical question, aiming at Sheph :)

Hugh	29-08-2023 08:54

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...2023-2ld98mp9w

Quote:

Government sources and aviation officials ruled out a cyberattack. Sources suggested the issue could be the result of an incorrectly filed plan by a French airline, although Nats would not comment.

It is understood that officials know what caused the issue but not how it disabled the system. An investigation has been launched.

jfman

29-08-2023 09:28

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

Of course they would never actually tell us it was the Russians (or any other nefarious state actor).

We’d just file it under administrative error and carry out a retaliatory cyber attack silently. It probably wouldn’t even register on the news here, but the people who need to know would know.

Like all those fishing trawlers accidentally cutting subsea cables in the vicinity of Russian submarines. What bad luck.

Pierre

29-08-2023 10:26

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36159412)

Like all those fishing trawlers accidentally cutting subsea cables in the vicinity of Russian submarines. What bad luck.

Russian subs don't cut subsea cables.

the boring reality is, that it is indeed fishing boats, ships anchors and geological events that damage cables.

Halcyon

29-08-2023 10:37

Re: Fault hits UK Air traffic Control

Caused a right load of chaos at East Midlands.

Of all the days it could happen, bank holiday when many families were getting back from school holidays was the worst time.

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