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Dude111 05-01-2023 03:28

This concert kicks ass!!

I looked up the copy I got today it said 1986!!

I cant believe it sounds so good for 1986 but what I cant believe even more is ITS MONO!!

I dont know many records after 1969 that are mono.... (I prefer mono)

I love how alive people were then.... They cheered and roared thru the whole song!!

I have some Beatles concerts also that the crowd is quite active all thru!!

If this 1986 one sounds this good,I gotta get the original mono release!!

I think The kinks were the BEST they ever were in the 60s!!


I have several records and all are mono :)


It IS strange though..... On my copy ON THE RECORD,it says "All day and all of the night" is the first one.... That song isnt on this concert anywhere!! (I paid $20)

Quite strange......

Hugh 05-01-2023 11:06

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It is in mono because it was originally recorded in 1967…

Jaymoss 05-01-2023 12:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36143156)
This concert kicks ass!!

I looked up the copy I got today it said 1986!!

I cant believe it sounds so good for 1986 but what I cant believe even more is ITS MONO!!

I dont know many records after 1969 that are mono.... (I prefer mono)

I love how alive people were then.... They cheered and roared thru the whole song!!

I have some Beatles concerts also that the crowd is quite active all thru!!

If this 1986 one sounds this good,I gotta get the original mono release!!

I think The kinks were the BEST they ever were in the 60s!!


I have several records and all are mono :)


It IS strange though..... On my copy ON THE RECORD,it says "All day and all of the night" is the first one.... That song isnt on this concert anywhere!! (I paid $20)

Quite strange......


Why do you prefer mono? We have 2 ears natural is stereo. You get none of the sound stage with mono.

Chris 05-01-2023 12:54

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36143171)
Why do you prefer mono? We have 2 ears natural is stereo. You get none of the sound stage with mono.

Our Dude is a bit of a retro fanatic. He likes his 8-tracks, cassettes, Windows 98, CRT TVs, VHS tapes, you name it.

Although early stereo is a strange beast because at first sound engineers lacked the experience to use it subtly, so when you listen to early stereo recordings you’ll find vocals way off one side of the image and various instruments sounding like they’re in very specific locations. I find listening to some Beatles stuff in the car quite jarring for that reason. These days it is used skilfully to create complex, natural soundscapes so you’re hearing stereo without being conscious of it.

Dude111 06-01-2023 01:48

I wonder if thats why they left it mono Chris? (Maybe the stereo version doesnt sound good)

Chris 06-01-2023 11:06

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36143234)
I wonder if thats why they left it mono Chris? (Maybe the stereo version doesnt sound good)

It’s worth reading the brief history of the original recording and release of the album at Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Kelvin_Hall

The concert was recorded to a 4-track master tape and the original 33.3 RPM LP vinyl record is indeed in stereo, although it is notably poor even allowing for the nascent state of the art at the time. They tried to fix it by recording extra material in the studio afterwards and adding extra audience noise but only managed to make it worse, in the sense that it became a ‘live’ album that actually wasn’t quite live at all.

A mono mix was included when it was reissued on CD in 1998 but the article doesn’t state whether a mono mix existed earlier than that. Presumably it did, if you have a copy dated 1986. Unless of course yours is pirated. :D

Stephen 06-01-2023 13:28

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Ahh, Kelvin Hall. A place I've visited many times. Never known concerts there but, if it was way back in the 60s the SEC and other venues probably didn't exist then.

Chris 06-01-2023 13:57

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36143259)
Ahh, Kelvin Hall. A place I've visited many times. Never known concerts there but, if it was way back in the 60s the SEC and other venues probably didn't exist then.

They certainly didn’t - the SECC opened in 1985 on the site of a filled-in dock. Kelvin Hall seemed to fall out of favour after that and reinvented itself as an indoor athletics arena and home of the transport museum. They’ve extended their sports offering now the transport museum has moved to Riverside.

Dude111 08-01-2023 22:09

Im curious... Is Kelvin Hall still about?

I know many in NYC are not anymore (Fillmore east is gone (I THINK))

Yup mine is a legit Germany press from 1986 Chris :)

www.discogs.com/release/5988161

Hugh 08-01-2023 22:12

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36143385)
Im curious... Is Kelvin Hall still about?

I know many in NYC are not anymore (Fillmore east is gone (I THINK))

Yup mine is a legit Germany press from 1986 Chris :)

www.discogs.com/release/5988161

Yes, it is…

Stephen 08-01-2023 23:30

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36143385)
Im curious... Is Kelvin Hall still about?

I know many in NYC are not anymore (Fillmore east is gone (I THINK))

Yup mine is a legit Germany press from 1986 Chris :)

www.discogs.com/release/5988161

Yes it 8s. Has been used as an athletic arena, TV studios, Transport Museum among other things in recent years.

https://kelvinhall.org.uk/glasgow-mu...-hall-history/

Dude111 10-01-2023 14:21

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
Why do you prefer mono?

Just a more together sound. Everything is in 1 place..... Sounds nicer often.....

Stephen 10-01-2023 15:24

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Nothing sounds nicer in Mono. It just sound plain and like you are listening to AM radio through a sponge.

A nice wide sound space separating the vocals and instruments makes the music feel more alive.

Hugh 10-01-2023 17:42

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36143469)
Just a more together sound. Everything is in 1 place..... Sounds nicer often.....

Unless one is deaf in one ear, we naturally hear in stereo.

Dude111 10-01-2023 23:44

Well I guess we all like different things :)


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