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Dude111 25-06-2021 03:21

Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4

I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election.....

Damien 25-06-2021 06:56

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
They're not the same parties. I think the U.S is much better for the type of Conservatism Shaprio promotes.

Chris 25-06-2021 07:42

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36084262)
Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4

I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election.....

You really have no idea. British conservatives are almost all committed to the very socialised health care your lot seem to think is a horseman of the apocalypse. Mainstream conservative thought in the UK is entirely different to the US on issues like the size and role of government and the limits of personal freedom in pursuit of a safe and cohesive society (note the near total ban on owning firearms here).

If your idea of hell is a country dominated by “Dems” then you’d hate it here, because conservative politics here is probably a better match for US Democrats than it is republicans.

We do of course have some Libertarian nut jobs here but there aren’t many of them and for the most part they reside, thankfully, on the lunatic fringe of British politics, and those of them in elected office generally don’t make too much noise.

Hugh 25-06-2021 10:13

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36084262)
Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4

I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election.....

Ben Shapiro, the towering intellect who, when discussing Climate Change, said there wasn't a problem if you lived near the coast and rising waters threatened to put your house under water, it won’t be such a big deal “if the sea level rises five or ten metres” because people will just “sell their homes and move”....

https://www.indy100.com/news/ben-sha...median-8939886

How much do underwater houses sell for?

:confused:

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36084269)
You really have no idea. British conservatives are almost all committed to the very socialised health care your lot seem to think is a horseman of the apocalypse. Mainstream conservative thought in the UK is entirely different to the US on issues like the size and role of government and the limits of personal freedom in pursuit of a safe and cohesive society (note the near total ban on owning firearms here).

If your idea of hell is a country dominated by “Dems” then you’d hate it here, because conservative politics here is probably a better match for US Democrats than it is republicans.

We do of course have some Libertarian nut jobs here but there aren’t many of them and for the most part they reside, thankfully, on the lunatic fringe of British politics, and those of them in elected office generally don’t make too much noise.

Yes, Ben accused Andrew Neil of being "of the left", which shows the complete different Overton Windows in both countries…

Dude111 26-06-2021 02:31

But generally I think your country is doing better Hugh in alot of ways!!!!!!

Angua 26-06-2021 10:50

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36084262)
Ben Shapiro debated this with someone 3 days ago.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp3CmdFJtR4

I picked UK as the US is dominated by DEMS and its more than obvious since the election.....

Hmm the Dems who are in reality slightly to the Right of Thatcher. The US does not really do any LW politics.

OLD BOY 26-06-2021 19:09

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 36084410)
Hmm the Dems who are in reality slightly to the Right of Thatcher. The US does not really do any LW politics.

Not quite sure how you make that out. They started centrist but have migrated to left of centre. They are, frankly, all over the place. They reckon they are 'Democrats' (it says so on the can) and yet they campaigned on the basis that they would overturn the people's choice to go for Brexit. I don't see any right-wing policies at all - perhaps you can enlighten us.

It is fair to say that the only parties to support the people's preference were the Conservatives and UKIP.

Mr K 26-06-2021 19:45

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
Personally I think the Conservatives would be best off in Somalia.

OLD BOY 26-06-2021 20:11

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36084479)
Personally I think the Conservatives would be best off in Somalia.

Yes, Mr SunaK would soon get their budget sorted out so the people could actually get fed.

jfman 26-06-2021 21:05

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36084485)
Yes, Mr SunaK would soon get their budget sorted out so the people could actually get fed.

You will never see your preferred budget so I’d anticipate disappointment.

Paul 26-06-2021 21:26

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36084479)
Personally I think the Conservatives would be best off in Somalia.

Perhaps you would like to join them. ;)

Carth 26-06-2021 21:33

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36084501)
Perhaps you would like to join them. ;)

I'm sure his 'allotment' skills would be quite beneficial . . although an over abundance of Rhubarb could introduce other problems :erm:

Mr K 26-06-2021 21:55

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36084485)
Yes, Mr SunaK would soon get their budget sorted out so the people could actually get fed.

Is that the Mr Sunak who borrowed another £24.3 billion last month, racking up a dept of £2.19 trillion, 99% of GDP, the highest ratio since 1962? If I didn't know better I'd swear the socialists were in charge..

TheDaddy 26-06-2021 23:54

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36084463)
Not quite sure how you make that out. They started centrist but have migrated to left of centre. They are, frankly, all over the place. They reckon they are 'Democrats' (it says so on the can) and yet they campaigned on the basis that they would overturn the people's choice to go for Brexit. I don't see any right-wing policies at all - perhaps you can enlighten us.

It is fair to say that the only parties to support the people's preference were the Conservatives and UKIP.

Take the blue tinted specs off and read what's there, you're not sure how she made that out because she didn't make that out at all, your post bares no correlation to hers

Hugh 27-06-2021 10:10

Re: Which is a better country for Conservatives: The U.S. or the U.K.?
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36084463)
Not quite sure how you make that out. They started centrist but have migrated to left of centre. They are, frankly, all over the place. They reckon they are 'Democrats' (it says so on the can) and yet they campaigned on the basis that they would overturn the people's choice to go for Brexit. I don't see any right-wing policies at all - perhaps you can enlighten us.

It is fair to say that the only parties to support the people's preference were the Conservatives and UKIP.

Can you please provide a link to that?


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