Pittsburgh shooting: Multiple casualties at Squirrel Hill synagogue
 

Yet another US shooting. Gunman had an assault rifle and 2 pistols.

Trump showing his usual compassion statingthat, it had nothing to do with gun laws and if they had guns too it would have been a better result. I mean WTF!

Pittsburgh shooting: Multiple casualties at Squirrel Hill synagogue
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46002549

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Same old, same old.

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Such a shame - more pointless slaughter.

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Absolutely terrible when lives are lost so easily.:(

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he has been charged on 29 criminal counts

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Nothing to see here, just another day in the good old rootin’ Tootin’ US of A.

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A proud owner of several legally held firearms. Trump's reaction - it isn't about gun control and the answer is more guns..... :rolleyes:

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More about the shooter: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...t-antisemitism

Seemed obsessed with anti-semitic conspiracies online.

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Slate me if you want but this is a non story in the UK.

I'm glad in the news it came after the Leicester helicopter crash and Hoddles heart attack.


This is just a normal day in gun crazy US of A.

When they wake up and smell the coffee and realise that gun control is the way forward.

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Never gonna happen especially with someone like Trump running the country. His answer to these horrible events always seems to be, well if they all had guns too... :rolleyes:

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This should be on the front pages and tweeted by POTUS but somehow I doubt it will:

Muslim groups raise thousands for Pittsburgh synagogue shooting victims

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Is it me or is a pattern forming?

Madman loner walks into a crowded place and shoots loads of people
The press immediately speculate about his (or her, theoretically, although I can't think of any occasions when a woman has done this).
Gun Nuts offer "Hopes and Prayers" while vehemently denying that easily available weapons make things like this more likely. Sometimes the NRA organises a press conference in the town where the shooting occurred.
Trump tweets promising to arm more people.
Trump tweets a generic "mmm, Violence is bad, mkay?" tweet.
Trump blames the media, and "fake news".
Gun Nuts will attack the victims if they dare protest about the thing that made them a victim.
People who want guns banned use it as evidence that guns are bad.
After a couple of weeks, people go back to doing what they were doing before the shooting.

Now, I've deliberately kept party references out of this (apart from Trump) because I can accept that while it seems a lot of Republicans are gun nuts, not all are. Similarly I don't doubt that some Democrats are gun nuts, and I think the gun problem in America is too important to reduce it to party politics.

I do believe America has a problem with guns. It's gone beyond just defending people defending themselves, their families, and their homes against an oppressive government (which is essentially what the 2nd Amendment is intended to facilitate). It's grown into a multi billion dollar industry that feeds off scaring Americans into believing they are aren't safe unless they are armed.

The trouble it, multi billion dollar industries tend to get what they want, and can be very difficult to fight.

I hope that, at some point, we get an American government which does do what I think is the sensible thing and look at guns critically. What I mean by critically is not an outright ban (which is what some left wingers do seem to be calling for and what right wingers seem to think all left wingers are calling for). There are situations and careers where a person needs to be armed (farming, for instance). Even where people do need guns, they don't necessarily need access to the full range of types and accessories they currently have.

The funny thing is, a right wing friend of mine (also a rabid Trumpite) likes to crow about the amount of knife crime we have in this country, or at least did until I reminded him it's a lot easier to go into a room with a semi automatic (or even fully automatic) gun and kill a lot of people than it is to go into a room with a knife and kill a lot of people. I also reminded him about the monthly mass shootings in the US.

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Of course he won't. It doesn't mesh with his general narrative that islam is bad.

He hasn't at the time I posted this.

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The troumble is too many people in the US get kick back from the NRA so they will never vote to restrict guns.

I feel its time the British newspapers/channels stop giving this gun crime air time.

Sorry to be blunt but I not longer care about these stories.

There are more important stuff here to get news coverage.

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However, estimates are that only 20 to 30 percent of Americans personally own one or more guns.

Strange how so few people have so much power over their elected leaders?

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Money can buy you influence and power.