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alexcopeland 06-10-2016 15:42
TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
I have noticed that the Freeview HD picture quality is sharper than the output of my TiVo.

TV set is a Sony 55W805C.

TiVo is connected to TV via Onkyo AV receiver using HDMI cables. TiVo is set to output 1080i. Sony TV set to Full Pixel mode.

I thought the picture would be the same however flicking between BBC one HD on either platforms I see a sharper picture on Freeview HD and a smoother picture from the TiVo.

I have used recommended picture settings as per the avforums video on YouTube for my TV.

Can anyone else see this?

toady 06-10-2016 18:42
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
My Freeview HD picture looks worse to me than the TIVO version

alexcopeland 06-10-2016 19:25
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
To be honest it's also smoothing out on Netflix compared to the app built into the TV too.

Mr K 06-10-2016 20:04
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Have to say my Freeview HD quality is noticeably better than TiVo.

nomadking 06-10-2016 20:56
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
The BBC is required to supply the same quality of broadcasts irrespective of provider(freeview, cable, satelite etc). Any differences will come from the TV itself via picture settings that are specific to the source of the images (internal freeview, HDMI etc). Eg my 3 year old Samsung has a "Game Mode" setting, which obviously doesn't apply to the internal Freeview picture.The option says that it may degrade picture quality. The TV may do the freeview decoding and upscaling in the same chip, which means the upscaling might be different between freeview and external HDMI source.

Mr K 06-10-2016 21:02
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35862241)
The BBC is required to supply the same quality of broadcasts irrespective of provider(freeview, cable, satelite etc). Any differences will come from the TV itself via picture settings that are specific to the source of the images (internal freeview, HDMI etc). Eg my 3 year old Samsung has a "Game Mode" setting, which obviously doesn't apply to the internal Freeview picture.The option says that it may degrade picture quality. The TV may do the freeview decoding and upscaling in the same chip, which means the upscaling might be different between freeview and external HDMI source.
Same tv settings on both inputs, Freeview is better than Tivo. Just on HD, SD they're the same.

nomadking 06-10-2016 21:15
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35862242)
Same tv settings on both inputs, Freeview is better than Tivo. Just on HD, SD they're the same.
The "Game Mode" setting on my TV is not in the picture settings. It is hidden away in the System, General settings.

nodrogd 06-10-2016 22:50
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35862241)
The BBC is required to supply the same quality of broadcasts irrespective of provider(freeview, cable, satelite etc). Any differences will come from the TV itself via picture settings that are specific to the source of the images (internal freeview, HDMI etc). Eg my 3 year old Samsung has a "Game Mode" setting, which obviously doesn't apply to the internal Freeview picture.The option says that it may degrade picture quality. The TV may do the freeview decoding and upscaling in the same chip, which means the upscaling might be different between freeview and external HDMI source.
VM use the Astra satellites for most SD feeds, but HD channels are usually supplied direct to the Super Headend at Langley on an uncompressed fibre feed from the broadcaster.

alexcopeland 06-10-2016 22:59
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
There is a noticeably softer picture from my TiVo STB and I find it unusual that all HD channels are not as good to watch via the TiVo when compared to Freeview HD.

nomadking 06-10-2016 23:01
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35862257)
VM use the Astra satellites for most SD feeds, but HD channels are usually supplied direct to the Super Headend at Langley on an uncompressed fibre feed from the broadcaster.
There is a (legal?) requirement that the BBC supply the same quality level on all platforms. Freeview, VM, Sky, etc will all be the same.

nialli 06-10-2016 23:01
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Some Freeview is in 1080p. Having said that, my Sony's BBC HD channels look better than my TiVo's. C4 looks better on TiVo. ITV is not notably better on Frreview unless it's a 1080p programme.

kirk1690 07-10-2016 07:01
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Of course you meant 1080i ,1080p broadcasts in the UK don't exist .:dunce:

alexcopeland 07-10-2016 11:31
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
I'm in two minds whether to try Sky and their new Q box to see if this improves my experience because I don't feel I'm getting good value for money paying out for kit that doesn't deliver a decent picture. Or wait for the V6 STB from Virginmedia.

nomadking 07-10-2016 13:16
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by alexcopeland (Post 35862321)
I'm in two minds whether to try Sky and their new Q box to see if this improves my experience because I don't feel I'm getting good value for money paying out for kit that doesn't deliver a decent picture. Or wait for the V6 STB from Virginmedia.
And possibly find that the "problem" is still there as it's related to whatever is plugged into the HDMI ports.

alexcopeland 07-10-2016 13:52
Re: TiVo HD Picture Quality Vs Freeview HD
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35862341)
And possibly find that the "problem" is still there as it's related to whatever is plugged into the HDMI ports.
True, there is a possibility.


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