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The way this is going there will soon be retaliation strikes aimed at muslims. There are fanatics on both sides of this.

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And of course that's what the likes of ISIS want. They don't care how they bring us down or what the rationale (if any) of the murderers is (black, white, male, female, Muslim, Christian, sane, insane) because anything which undermines our society is good news for them and if they can take credit so they will. The enemy already within us are their tools and we've allowed intolerance to be bred amongst us...

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Odd that, daesh hate being called daesh. Pain of death is you call them that.

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Just another day in "diversity" europe.Unfortunately the new normal.

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Well it's easy to foresee a situation in which all sorts of sad, gullible, vulnerable, confused or mentally ill people might claim to be supporting their aims without knowing too much about who they are or what they really represent. Indeed some of these people may have no real connection with Islam at all.

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If you are a true muslim, such acts are totally against your religion.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islami..._jurisprudence

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So what? :confused:

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So your solution is to let them continue unmolested and escalate the level of violence of their actions, because some point they are going to get tired and give up?:rolleyes: Has that strategy ever worked anywhere?

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I have no idea where all that came from mate. Have you been reading what I've been writing in numerous related posts/threads here? :shrug:

If you can find a single example of where I've said any of that please show me but I won't be holding my breath.

There is no true solution to this problem, certainly not an easy one. We have tolerated intolerance for far too long and now it's going to bite us. We need to balance being tough on the terrorists and challenging the intolerance which successive govts. have turned a blind eye to in the name of political correctness and multiculturalism. Sadly, because it's been allowed to take root like Japanese knotweed, it isn't going to be easy, painless or quick but that I'm afraid is the best we can do to combat the cancer which is spreading within our society.

We also need to be far more careful about whom we allow into this country - there are quite enough already here who would do us harm and we're going to have our work cut out dealing with them let alone importing more legally under the guise of refugees or illegally on the back of lorries.

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The only answer is another ground offensive to eradicate the Islamic State.

Remove them and their propaganda.

It is the only way, If this carries on I can France invoking NATO. If Trump gets in he has already said he will declare war against ISIS.

If there aren't troops back in Iraq and in Syria by 2017 I'll be amazed.

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I think we should have intervened in Syria previously but would that fix this problem now? ISIS are, as far as I have read, being pushed back at this point. They pretty much left Iraq a while ago and are losing ground in Syria.

The thing is it's a lot harder to stop some random person who has conspired with no-one from killing people in the name of ISIS. They don't need to exist as a coherent force for these things to happen.

As for Trump given his previous comments of killing innocent people (if they're related to less innocent people) and excusing his troops from any war crime violations I am not sure he would do anything but make things a lot worse.

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It helps to point that this isn't Muslims vs the World but Islamic Extremists vs Muslims & the Rest of the World. We don't want to do their propaganda for them.

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That'd be why the vast majority aren't engaged in terrorism and the like.

What we mustn't do however is to allow extremist 'teaching' and ISIS propaganda to go unchallenged because it's that which is causing ordinary people to be drawn into intolerance and extremism.

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If you say so

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Got any figures on how many Christians think homosexuality should be illegal?