Rio Olympics 2016: Russia athlete ban upheld by Cas
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/36855244

Good I am pleased with this decision.I however hope they go after any other doping cheats..

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Is this a case of the Russians trying to hide those who MAY have been cheating and not necessarily those that they knew were cheating?

When any cheat is caught it won't be as a result of the first time they cheated. They will have likely been cheating undetected for a long time. Many of the drugs are for use in training, eg steroids, and are not on-the-day performance enhancers.

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It's all a western capitalist plot... :rolleyes:

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There have been so many cheats over the years I no longer have any interest in the Olympic 'celebration of athletic prowess'.

Nobody knows what the true level of unenhanced human physical achievement is any more.

Let them all cheat until they die and let's stop pretending that people are competing against each other for anything but money; the Greek ideal is long gone.

Any so-called records that exist are meaningless because no-one knows who is clean and who isn't. We know it's not just Russians who are at it.

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Seems to me that it's a race between the two technology's one for enhancing performance and the other for identifying it but what it's definitely not about anymore is human effort. Soon as large sums of money become a part of something it is on a road to corruption and abuse can't remember the last time I watched the Olympics nothing worse then supporting someone, seeing them win and then failing the drug test.

There will no doubt be an increase in pro Russian media in the coming weeks on YouTube that lately seems overrun by pro Russian videos on everything from political class to their military and plenty of people falling for it and praising Russia and Putin. What's worse is when you track it back 85% traces back to St Petersburg where the FSB main information office is and 13% back to Moscow yet they are winning more and more people over.

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Well people tend to much prefer venting their frustrations on an evil foreign enemy than accepting that their own leadership is deeply corrupt and trying to cover its tracks.

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Sadly Osem it's rarely ordinary Russians who are shouting about Russia the great but people from other nations one of the biggest pro Russian groups at the minute on YouTube are Indians who seem to have a very cuddly view of Russia. There is so much corruption within Russia did anyone actually believe it wasn't present in their sports it doesn't go down very well to be a sports person in Russia and not deliver results and with officialdom more then happy to turn a blind eye anything goes and is acceptable.

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I take your point but I'm not sure social media is a true reflection of the majority view or anything like it. From what I've seen, it seems to attract a relatively small number of people who make a disproportionate amount of noise - usually offensive garbage. It's the same with local crime - a small number of morons who create so much hassle for everyone else.

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This. Its been a game of Designer PEDs vs testing authorities for years, just seeing the latter catching up much quicker recently. Its in every sport in the world.

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It used to be the case that 'athletes' would abuse steroids to attain an edge; but nowadays casual use of drugs in gyms up and down the Country seems to have become the norm. When this level of abuse is taking place simply for the body beautiful it seems unlikely we'll ever again see clean sporting achievement on a National or Inter-National level.

It's a shame really but I don't intend wasting too much of my time watching self-obsessed cheats running around in circles. I bet their drug of choice comes replete with a Sponsor's logo; if it doesn't yet, it probably soon will ;).

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I remember years ago a tongue in cheek cartoon in the paper of the Olympic parade but instead of countries flags each group of athletes had placards with the major pharmaceutical company logos on them. :erm:

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In the pole vault, the gold medal will be awarded to the athlete that achieves the 'legal high' :D.

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Or gets highest without a pole

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So I gather you think every athlete is a cheat..

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Maybe we should allow doping ,it used to be legal but was stopped to protect the athletes ,maybe under controlled conditions we should allow it because we are never going to stop it .As spectators we all want to see records broken and eventually that will only be possible with the aid of drugs or stimulants