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SnoopZ 16-01-2016 10:31

Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
I consider my broadband to be working perfectly, it gives me full speed for what i pay for and currently no congestion since moving to an upgraded CMTS.

However after running the DSLreports speedtest i have been getting readings of C,D and F for bufferbloat, is this bad as based on my other graphs below everything appears to be fine apart from the TBB graph, although this is only like that as i am running on 16 downstream channels on my Hub3 since moving to an Arris CMTS and everyone experiences the same result, and i am not sure if it is really causing a problem, unless it is causing the bufferbloat?

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tweedle 16-01-2016 10:56

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
My Sky 80mb fibre has been suffering lately ;) imagine gaming with your kind of connection, must be awful. I'm quite literally amazing at Black Ops 3 I put most of it down to my connection with its 20mb upload.


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SnoopZ 16-01-2016 11:43

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
As i said my connection is great, gaming is not an issue, so as in the OP is bufferbloat bad for the technical minded folk here who know the answer? :)

qasdfdsaq 16-01-2016 11:47

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Bufferbloat increases download and upload speeds (by a minute amount) at the expense of poor responsiveness while maxing out the connection.

If you try gaming or browsing while also downloading or uploading at full speed, you'll notice a lot of lag. If you only ever do one thing at a time on your connection, you won't notice the effect at all.

Bufferbloat has always been bad on VM's network, it's intentional and by design.

SnoopZ 16-01-2016 12:04

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Thanks

Kymmy 16-01-2016 15:41

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35817613)

All fine here with VM including bufferbloat

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SnoopZ 16-01-2016 16:59

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Maybe it is the Hub3 doing it, but the connection itself currently seems 100% fine.

Kymmy 16-01-2016 18:04

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Mine was same on sh2, sh2ac and the sh3

SnoopZ 16-01-2016 18:58

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
No idea here then, atleast the connection seems fine.

Synthetic 17-01-2016 17:45

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Fine here on the SH3 too https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/01/25.png

SnoopZ 17-01-2016 18:21

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
All i know is the bufferbloat is on my downstream, upstream is fine, the connection appears perfect though on 16 downstreams, however i was congested when on a different CMTS on 8 downstreams.

Sephiroth 19-01-2016 06:51

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
I can only comment on the TBB graph as Bufferbloat is not something that appears to affect my son's gaming while I'm busy doing other stuff.

The TBB graph on the SH2ac in modem mode to an ASUS router showed very low maximum latency. On the other hand, with the SH3 I see the same as Snoopz; perfect performance but higher maximum latency and the same as before low average latency. I'm told by VM that they are looking at this phenomenon.

JordanTheToaster 21-01-2016 14:47

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
My downstream seems to be iffy but upstream tests just tank it massively


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Ignitionnet 21-01-2016 16:34

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35817811)
All i know is the bufferbloat is on my downstream, upstream is fine, the connection appears perfect though on 16 downstreams

Odd. The cable networks usually have bloat on upstream, not downstream.

SnoopZ 21-01-2016 18:44

Re: Bufferbloat - is it bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35818372)
Odd. The cable networks usually have bloat on upstream, not downstream.

When i do that speedtest the bufferbloat can shoot right upto 1200ms by the end of the test for download, however when doing upload it stays lowish at around 20ms if i remember, not at home so cant check.


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