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whoareyou 23-10-2015 14:35

Splitter
 
Hi all,

I currently have a Tivo box, V+ box and broadband.
The broadband is fed via the outside wall, upstairs and into a bedroom to the Superhub. Downstairs a two way splitter provides the connections to the Tivo in the front room and V+ box in the back room.
Im looking to use a three way splitter so I can relocate the Superhub to the front room.
Is this advisable?
Thanks for any info

pip08456 23-10-2015 16:01

Re: Splitter
 
It's doable as long as the power levels stay within acceptable margins.

You won't know until you try it though.

Sephiroth 24-10-2015 16:50

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Very important what Pip has said. The three way splitters have odd attenuation characteristics. On mine, one of the ports is -7db.

pip08456 25-10-2015 11:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35804918)
Very important what Pip has said. The three way splitters have odd attenuation characteristics. On mine, one of the ports is -7db.

You mean I actually was right again?:D:D:D

Sephiroth 25-10-2015 11:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35805033)
You mean I actually was right again?:D:D:D

You have to ask?

Ignitionnet 26-10-2015 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35804918)
Very important what Pip has said. The three way splitters have odd attenuation characteristics. On mine, one of the ports is -7db.

Indeed. They come in a couple of varieties. One is the signal split into 3 directly, ~5.5dB loss on all ports, the other a single split then one of the legs of that split split again, providing one port of ~3.5dB loss, usually labelled the 'power port', and two of ~7dB.

Hom3r 26-10-2015 16:28

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Off topic but when I saw the title I thought PFJ or JPF :D

whoareyou 16-12-2015 05:48

Re: Splitter
 
Thanks for the replies and info.
Just to add a bit extra. The original cable which enter the house splits immediately. One into the Tivo box and another leading to a V+ box in the back room.
Would it be possible to split at the V+ box end? ie split a cable, which in theory has been split already?

Many thanks

Ignitionnet 16-12-2015 07:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35813049)
Thanks for the replies and info.
Just to add a bit extra. The original cable which enter the house splits immediately. One into the Tivo box and another leading to a V+ box in the back room.
Would it be possible to split at the V+ box end? ie split a cable, which in theory has been split already?

Many thanks

As long as the power permits it certainly. Can split as many times as you want, the only issues are the power levels and SNR.

whoareyou 16-12-2015 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35813053)
As long as the power permits it certainly. Can split as many times as you want, the only issues are the power levels and SNR.

Thanks, is there a way of me finding this out?

Ignitionnet 16-12-2015 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whoareyou (Post 35813090)
Thanks, is there a way of me finding this out?

Yes. Look at the power levels reported by whatever is connected on that leg right now.

If it's a TiVo I'll leave someone who has one to advise :)

whoareyou 17-12-2015 05:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35813098)
Yes. Look at the power levels reported by whatever is connected on that leg right now.

If it's a TiVo I'll leave someone who has one to advise :)

Thanks

horseman 18-12-2015 07:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35813098)
....
If it's a TiVo I'll leave someone who has one to advise :)

No sooner said than done:

Home > Help & Settings > System Information > Diagnostics

However........ "Danger Danger Will Robinson! Alien Xmas presents detected!.....

The Tivo signal stats are not totally reliable/accurate - nor to a certain lesser extent is the BB Shub!

You can't accurately get RxMer/SNR/FEC data on the upstream. So unless you have VM sourced "splitter" and "patch" cable then you're totally reliant on someone like QAS pointing you to the correct vendor source/part! ;)
The engineer will have a pad/JDSU 1250 handheld DOCSIS metering and access to RedTools etc. Which provided he's got a calibrated meter with correct Area code configuration will be a lot more accurate for both downstream/upstream assessment.

That said when you're beta testing multiple firmware/hardware on both BB and Tivo some of us have to employ cascaded splitters/patch cables ourselves! (fortunately I'm close enough to streetcab and set the tap so I can just about run 2 SuperHubs and Tivo from my single internal drop) ;)

whoareyou 18-12-2015 14:14

Re: Splitter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35813381)
No sooner said than done:

Home > Help & Settings > System Information > Diagnostics

However........ "Danger Danger Will Robinson! Alien Xmas presents detected!.....

The Tivo signal stats are not totally reliable/accurate - nor to a certain lesser extent is the BB Shub!

You can't accurately get RxMer/SNR/FEC data on the upstream. So unless you have VM sourced "splitter" and "patch" cable then you're totally reliant on someone like QAS pointing you to the correct vendor source/part! ;)
The engineer will have a pad/JDSU 1250 handheld DOCSIS metering and access to RedTools etc. Which provided he's got a calibrated meter with correct Area code configuration will be a lot more accurate for both downstream/upstream assessment.

That said when you're beta testing multiple firmware/hardware on both BB and Tivo some of us have to employ cascaded splitters/patch cables ourselves! (fortunately I'm close enough to streetcab and set the tap so I can just about run 2 SuperHubs and Tivo from my single internal drop) ;)

Thanks,
Its seems realistically im not going to get accurate data. So is it something I could simply just try (the splitter) or could I risk damaging equipment/signals?
If it didn't work would it just be a case or a poor signal (tv or internet)

pip08456 18-12-2015 15:35

Re: Splitter
 
Try it, if it doesn't work just change it back.

You won't damage anything with the attempt.


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