Well said Owen Jones.
 

100% spot on.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24104743

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And since that nearly 2 year old story was published, how many benefit fraudsters have been jailed for 10 years?

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None.

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Are the Judges not following the guidelines then or are they clearly deciding (for themselves) the punishment is disproportionate to the crime?

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A little girls rapist gets less.
A little girls killer gets less.

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Correct.

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Course they are Owen. It'll be routine... :rolleyes:

Don't you just love it when people like him take the maximum possible penalties and then try to associate them with the most trivial offences. It's pathetic.

Anyway, I wonder what Keir Starmer thinks about all this now he's a Labour MP. He seemed to think it was a very good thing when he was DPP...

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When I saw the thread title, I thought the story was going to be that Owen Jones has promised to keep his gob shut for the rest of his natural life.

No such luck.

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:rofl:

There's about as much chance of that as there is George Galloway admitting he's wrong.

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What are you saying?
which ones are trivial offences?
do you think that not all pedos and murderers get less than 10 years?

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It's a fact that not all paedophiles and murderers get less than 10 years....

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Yeh.

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Anyone living in the real world (unlike Jones and Gary) knows that the maximum sentence allowable for benefit fraud is never, ever, ever, going to be handed down to ordinary people who've fiddled a few quid on their benefits, matter what they like to pretend. Neither are such sentences routinely going to be tougher than those applied to rapists, murderers and paedophiles but let's not be realistic eh? They're not even going to be applied to people who've, like this civil servant, defrauded the taxpayer out of £110,000 and only got 8 months just a few weeks ago.

http://www.bromleytimes.co.uk/news/c...raud_1_4081173

The fact is that there are serial and serious fraudsters and it's right that when caught they should face 10 years behind bars. Frankly I wish it was more and just for those who're easily 'confused', that's not the same as saying that benefit fraud is or should be treated more seriously than rape...

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Indeed. Maximum penalties a dished out to serious, repeat offenders.

But the likes of Owen Jones seldom allow reality to impinge on a good polemic.

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We'll who'd bother reporting his drivel if it wasn't hugely exaggerated and distorted? Still, I suppose it gives the likes of Gary something to get all worked up about...

:D