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Ignitionnet 03-02-2015 08:13

Three-person babies technique voted on by MPs
 
Beeb.

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MPs will hold a crucial vote later to decide whether to allow the creation of babies using DNA from three people.

They will have a free vote on the technique, which is aimed at preventing deadly genetic diseases being passed from mother to child.

The UK could become the first country to legalise three-person babies and it could help about 150 couples a year.

It has sparked fierce ethical debate and senior Church figures have called for the procedure to be blocked.

However, if there is a "yes" vote in the Commons, then the first three-person baby could be born as soon as next year.
It should be noted that the DNA referred to from the 'third' person is not actually 'their' DNA but belongs to the mitochondria borrowed from that person. These are sub-units of cells that are essentially the power plants and have their own DNA. They are believed to be endosymbiotes whose evolutionary roots were as separate bacteria and at some point, believed to be 1.7 to 2 billion years ago, survived becoming parts of larger cells.

It's the cutting edge, very much so, however it is very different from genetically engineering human beings and mitochondrial DNA is far from unique, unlike a human's DNA which is the combination of their parents'.

Playing 'God' or playing 'Doctor'? For me we routinely do transplants, this is much the same but on a cellular level.

richard s 03-02-2015 09:20

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Genetically Engineered humans! the master race is just around the corner.

heero_yuy 03-02-2015 09:30

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Coordinators ;)

Chris 03-02-2015 12:26

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35756943)

Playing 'God' or playing 'Doctor'? For me we routinely do transplants, this is much the same but on a cellular level.

This.

Hugh 03-02-2015 12:27

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35756956)
Genetically Engineered humans! the master race is just around the corner.

Point.

Missed.

Completely........

tweetiepooh 03-02-2015 12:54

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Hard question isn't it. I think that this research to aid around 150 couples per year is the worrying part. This technique is to fix a mitochondrial issue and isn't genetic engineering as most people think but what could it allow in the future.

richard s 03-02-2015 13:18

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35757003)
Point.

Missed.

Completely........


No I understood, just expanding the issue... to another scenario!

Ignitionnet 03-02-2015 13:32

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35757012)
Hard question isn't it. I think that this research to aid around 150 couples per year is the worrying part. This technique is to fix a mitochondrial issue and isn't genetic engineering as most people think but what could it allow in the future.

We've been able to genetically engineer humans for a little while. Lovely thought isn't it?

This technique doesn't really allow modification of the DNA in the nucleus, it's transplant of an organelle from a donor to a receiving embryo.

Pierre 03-02-2015 13:36

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I haven't read the science.

But as long as the donor genetic material didn't alter baby.

I.e. Hair colour, eye colour, facial features etc. then I would be ok.

I understand it is bring used to alter a hereditary genetic defect, but as long it is not taking anything else away from the genetic parents.. If you follow me.

heero_yuy 03-02-2015 13:44

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The (defective) mitochondria are only passed on through the female parent. Who could argue with preventing the resulting debilitating illness and early death of a child so affected?

But many see this as a step along the road of genetic engineering or selection by genotype. If it is to prevent serious illnesses that have no other cure, I'm thinking cystic fibrosis and similar here, should we really not embrace this?

But how far to go? Give everybody 20/20 vision?

Sooner or later we'll be able to select or even engineer for relatively trivial things such as eye colour, hair colour etc. No matter what the regulators say money will allow it to happen.

Osem 03-02-2015 16:56

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I have no problem with this on the grounds now being suggested but it's inevitable that, over time, the boundaries as to what's an acceptable use of science like this and what isn't will be pushed.


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