Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Other ISPs Discussion (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=63)
-   -   Americans define 25Mb as Broadband. (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33699992)

Pierre 29-01-2015 19:58

Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/b...ource=internal

They also think they invented the internet.

alanbjames 29-01-2015 20:34

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Typical Yanks, They would say the sky was pink if it was to their advantage.

Ignitionnet 29-01-2015 20:43

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756017)
They also think they invented the internet.

Hmm, but they did? :)

qasdfdsaq 29-01-2015 20:45

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756017)
http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/b...ource=internal

They also think they invented the internet.

I don't think this is a bad thing. The standard for what people consider 'broadband' has changed drastically since the days when it was anything over 150Kbps. Or 28Kbps modems were considered 'fast'

Even Facebook would take minutes to load at that bandwidth now.

We here have a similar definition in the UK anyway for 'next-gen broadband' which started off at 25Mbps+ as well. They may have left out the 'next-gen' part but then they also have a far higher proportion of people connected to FTTx services and a far lower proportion of DSL users.

---------- Post added at 19:45 ---------- Previous post was at 19:44 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35756027)
Hmm, but they did? :)

Perhaps he was more hinting at how they seem to think they own the internet.

Ignitionnet 29-01-2015 20:47

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35756025)
Typical Yanks, They would say the sky was pink if it was to their advantage.

Not entirely sure how reducing their broadband availability in the worldwide statistics by 13% would benefit them. I, personally, entirely agree with this.

The really awesome part is we would call something 'superfast' that they wouldn't even describe as broadband now :)

---------- Post added at 19:46 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35756028)
We here have a similar definition in the UK anyway for 'next-gen broadband' which started off at 25Mbps+ as well.

>=24Mb download, zero definition for upload.

---------- Post added at 19:47 ---------- Previous post was at 19:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35756028)
Perhaps he was more hinting at how they seem to think they own the internet.

In some ways they do!

Pierre 29-01-2015 23:21

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35756027)
Hmm, but they did? :)

It depends what you consider the Internet?

Two commodore pets networked in a class room in 1975, is not the Internet.

Hugh 29-01-2015 23:47

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
No, but they must have invented a Time Machine, as the Pet came out in 77....;)

Pierre 30-01-2015 00:15

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35756057)
No, but they must have invented a Time Machine, as the Pet came out in 77....;)

It was to make a flippant point, and not claiming to be factually accurate. You have to be on your toes round 'ere don't you?

heero_yuy 30-01-2015 10:16

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756055)
It depends what you consider the Internet?

Two commodore pets networked in a class room in 1975, is not the Internet.

Quote:

The term "internet" was adopted in the first RFC published on the TCP protocol (RFC 675:[32] Internet Transmission Control Program, December 1974) as an abbreviation of the term internetworking and the two terms were used interchangeably. In general, an internet was any network using TCP/IP. It was around the time when ARPANET was interlinked with NSFNET in the late 1980s, that the term was used as the name of the network, Internet, being the large and global TCP/IP network.
Wiki

Basically once TCP/IP became the (open) network standard.

IIRC When NTL were trumpetting 256k through an STB as "superfast" always connected broadband. ( We had that )

Chris 30-01-2015 11:10

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg

Sorry ... :D

Pierre 30-01-2015 12:28

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
When you say Internet, you really mean the WWW. there's a bit more to it.

It's akin to saying the car was invented some time in BC when actually it was only the wheel.

The Wheel, The coach Body, the inetrnal combustion engine, where all invented separately.

But it was Benz/Daimler and may a few others that put them them together and built the car?

Much the same with the internet/ WWW

Chris 30-01-2015 13:28

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756101)
When you say Internet, you really mean the WWW. there's a bit more to it.

That really depends on whether the person saying "internet" understands the difference between "internet" and "world wide web".

Internetworking is a concept dating back to the early 1970s. It allowed very different computer networks to "talk" to each other. Vint Cerf, the man most directly responsible for this, coined the term "internetting".

Vint Cerf and Bob Khan, the man who brought him in to solve the inter-networking problem, are both US citizens, and were working on what was ultimately a US Government funded project.

The World Wide Web is one of the many applications that emerged to take advantage of the infrastructure afforded by the Internet. The WWW has become so powerful and flexible that these days, a great many things that predated it, like Usenet, email and IRC, are frequently accessed via a web browser. This, presumably, is part of the reason why the distinction between the Net and the Web has become muddied in the minds of many users.

heero_yuy 30-01-2015 14:39

Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
 
Its a dramatisation but tells the story of the background to the internet. Go to 27:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvNNRlsJN9U


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:00.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum