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Gavin-D 27-04-2014 15:47

Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
An article in yesterday's telegraph says that BSkyB is planing major overhaul of set-top box to meet Apple threat with a view to adding a cloud based recording system the telegraph also reports that Virgin Media is testing a cloud-based recording system along the lines of Project Ethan with its set-top box provider TiVo.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...le-threat.html

alwaysabear 27-04-2014 16:38

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35692926)
An article in yesterday's telegraph says that BSkyB is planing major overhaul of set-top box to meet Apple threat with a view to adding a cloud based recording system the telegraph also reports that Virgin Media is testing a cloud-based recording system along the lines of Project Ethan with its set-top box provider TiVo.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...le-threat.html

Its undoubtedly the future.

BenMcr 27-04-2014 21:13

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
It's likely a variation on this http://investor.tivo.com/phoenix.zht...cle&ID=1888472

Quote:

TiVo Reveals Plans to Bring TiVo(R) Roamio(TM) DVR Experience to the Cloud With Network Recordings Seamlessly Integrated, Easily Searchable and Available Anywhere, Anytime

johnathome 28-04-2014 10:52

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35693015)

That sounds interesting but i wonder what limitations it will have?

For instance will i be able to record any of my channels and stream them to my phone/tablet, even ones that i wouldn't normally be allowed to through the TVAnywhere app?

Would it really be anywhere/anytime? Would i be able to stream them over 3G/4G instead of just over wifi?

I hope they hurry up with this and i'll keep a beady eye on developments :)

muppetman11 28-04-2014 11:45

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
On paper its what we all want my only reservation with cloud recordings is expiry times , many people with 1TB and 2TB PVR's currently like to record and stack series up to watch at leisure.

Cloud recordings just become like On Demand so it will be interesting to see how long you can keep them in the cloud.

tweetiepooh 28-04-2014 11:53

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
Or how do you watch them if the cloud is out? At the moment I can watch recording if the "link" is down.

And how well does fast forward/reverse work? Local stuff it works very well, less controllable on streamed content. e.g. most program titles are approx 30 sec or one press of skip (3 on Star Trek), ad's often around 5 mins so can rack up "skips" but press play if shorter.

And echo expiry times. We have some recordings back over a year for programmes featuring family or of specific interest.

muppetman11 28-04-2014 12:11

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
Exactly you only have to look at the disaster Sky has had over the last month or so with Now TV and Sky Go services down , yesterday's issue was so called after planned maintenance the day before as well , totally unacceptable from a pay service although to be fair they are issuing refunds.

devilincarnate 28-04-2014 13:48

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
What do you do when it's a bright sunny day without a cloud in the sky:D

alwaysabear 28-04-2014 22:15

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35693157)
What do you do when it's a bright sunny day without a cloud in the sky:D

Go out and enjoy the weather.;)

Skie 29-04-2014 22:15

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
The perverse thing is due to overzealous rights holders what would be a rather good service capable of increasing viewership will likely be knobbled into something that has to do a lot of silly things just to appease Hollywood and their TV arms.

The sensible thing would be to just record everything that gets broadcast and then dish that up as video on demand whenever someone sets a recording. Seamless and cost effective. Anything past a day old that nobody has flagged to record is purged (though you could keep them for 7 to act as a universal catch-up service).

But the reality will probably be that each show is recorded and stored per customer who wanted it recording. There might even be channel or show based restrictions if a certain company refuses to allow cloud based storage of their show. Look at how aero in the US have had to come up with a way to remain legal.

It will be interesting to see if they can work around the idiocy of the media old guard. If not, piracy will continue to be the most convenient method to view shows.

Stuart 30-04-2014 10:37

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
While I can see the advantage of this technology for Virgin. After all, the boxes for this will not require a hard drive, so it reduces their costs for both maintenance and installation. For the consumer, I fail to see what advantage it provides over current technology.

Yes, you can watch it on any device, but the current technology is capable of doing that. So far any attempts to do that in this country have been hampered by rights holders, and I do not see that changing unless Liberty are willing to start competing with Sky on content, and fighting to have streaming to other devices included in their agreements with providers.

There is also the advantage that you can build the software into other devices, such as smart TVs, but, again, the technology to do that is already here, and Virgin have not used it.

In the meantime, they can expire programmes (which is something I do not want to see) and there is a lot more that can go wrong with the system.

spiderplant 30-04-2014 18:07

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35693762)
While I can see the advantage of this technology for Virgin. After all, the boxes for this will not require a hard drive, so it reduces their costs for both maintenance and installation. For the consumer, I fail to see what advantage it provides over current technology.

Potentially unlimited recording space.

Potentially unlimited number of simultaneous recordings.

You don't lose recordings if the box goes faulty, or you upgrade to a newer box.

Lower power consumption in the home. Could even record with the box completely powered off.

No hard drive noise.

Hugh 30-04-2014 20:51

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35693965)
Potentially unlimited recording space.

Potentially unlimited number of simultaneous recordings.

You don't lose recordings if the box goes faulty, or you upgrade to a newer box.

Lower power consumption in the home. Could even record with the box completely powered off.

No hard drive noise.

No access if network down / issues....;)

Not many homes have resilient links (yes, Iggy, the exception that proves the rule.... ;))

borrissey 01-05-2014 13:44

Re: Virgin Media testing a cloud-based recording system
 
Cloud based recording sounds good to up recording capacity but keep a hard drive in the TiVo also, good for backing up your TiVo as well.


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