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alanbjames 31-03-2014 14:07

Ethernet Cards
 
I was just wondering now having built a computer for my son and his boyfriend is there one type of ethernet card and chipset thats better than another?

The motherboard thats in my PC is this one...
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/990FXA.../?div=Overview

It uses a Realtek PCI-E GbLAN controller 8111E 10/100/1000 chipset.

The motherboard i put into my sons pc which he just uses for email and general browsing so didnt need anything as high spec is this board...

http://www.ebuyer.com/616248-asrock-...x-985gm-gs3-fx

This board also uses the same chipset for ethernet.

Are there any better chipsets and cards out there to get the best out of the net?

Kabaal 31-03-2014 14:28

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
What do you mean by "the best out of the net"? Is there something specifically wrong or that you want to improve?

Buying an expensive network card won't make your internet any faster or even your latency any lower.

rhyds 31-03-2014 14:34

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
There's no real difference between network card chipsets apart from some doing gigabit and some not.

alanbjames 31-03-2014 17:35

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
So theres no real difference between lets say Broadcom, Marvell or Realtek chipset cards?

rhyds 31-03-2014 18:08

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
Nope.

Matth 01-04-2014 00:38

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
In the old days, there was a lot of difference, the older Realtek 10/100 were somewhat primitive, and an Intel Pro/100 was far superior.

Now, it looks like they all do similar kind of offload processing - my Realtek 8111 has an impressive list of offloads.

Of course, Killer is still around - under the auspices of Atheros these days - though just how much difference the embedded CPU of killer makes these days, when multiple core CPUs have taken over.

In fact, the basic criticism of the "Killer NIC" was that it showed the most difference on the weakest systems, where you would be least likely to pay the price of it!

qasdfdsaq 01-04-2014 02:22

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 35685132)
In the old days, there was a lot of difference, the older Realtek 10/100 were somewhat primitive, and an Intel Pro/100 was far superior.

Now, it looks like they all do similar kind of offload processing - my Realtek 8111 has an impressive list of offloads.

Yep, back in the old days there were differences but nowadays all are much the same. Pretty much any chip from any vendor will have no trouble hitting wire speeds.

alanbjames 03-04-2014 04:18

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
why do realtek keep upgrading their chipsets then?

I have the 8111E and i noticed theres now an 8111F

rhyds 03-04-2014 07:17

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
My guess? Cost engineering.

welshycarysrees 04-04-2014 11:37

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
what do you mean cost engineering?

a bloke in PC World told my husband and i that Intel chipset are better over AMD.

rhyds 04-04-2014 12:00

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by welshycarysrees (Post 35686034)
what do you mean cost engineering?

a bloke in PC World told my husband and i that Intel chipset are better over AMD.


Cost engineering = making something cheaper.

And PC World is to sound technical advice what John Prescott is to ballet dancing. The PC world bloke was probably talking about Processors and motherboard chipsets, not network card chipsets.

alanbjames 04-04-2014 13:29

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
So what u r saying the 8111F is proberbly cheaper to manufacture over the 8111E?

rhyds 04-04-2014 13:54

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
With Ethernet being a mature technology (i.e. no really big changes in the standard) and CPUs being so powerful the only two ways you can really improve an ethernet chipset any more is by either making it compatible with a different slot/socket (PCIe, USB3), make it use less power use less power (to extend battery life) or redesign it to be cheaper to make.

I've no clue what the difference is between an 8111F or an 8111E actually is, but I'd be willing to bet its down to one or more of the reasons above.

qasdfdsaq 05-04-2014 18:59

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
Spot on.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...n=4&ProdID=239
http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/p...n=4&ProdID=291

The only difference between the two is updated power saving features - the F supports a later version of IEEE 802.3az (Energy Efficient Ethernet) and EMAC-393 ECMA ProxZzzy Standard for sleeping hosts

Halcyon 10-04-2014 21:20

Re: Ethernet Cards
 
I remember when people were buying seperate Ethernet cards.
Now nearly every motherboard will have an ethernet port that is more than decent for the job and you won't see any real difference.


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