Scientists find 'marker' left by Big Bang
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-26605974

Hard to get your head around what they've found but it seems to be the light left over from the Big Bang and thus further evidence that it not only happened by happened in the way hyptotised by Scientists for a long time now.

It must be so rewarding for the Scientists that came up with these theories to see them validated decades later.

Here is a video of the guy who came up with this theory being told he was right all along: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlfIV...ature=youtu.be

I also found this post on Reddit to better explain why this is so important: http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comm...hailed/cg4unam

Apparently if confirmed this will be one of the greatest discoveries in the history of physics. :shocked:

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I also think this also suggests our estimates for the age of the universe are more likely...

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Listening to the sound of creationists digging in the sand..;)

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No that would be the sound of the 'Young Earth-ers'. Us Creationists don't really have a problem with the Big Bang theory.

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This is the second time in a year that a fundamental hypothesis in physics has been proven correct decades later when our ability to look for it has arrived. That's amazing.

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how has it been proven correct? they have found something that they theorise gives evidence that a theory is correct they still could be totally wrong

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They found exactly what the theory suggested would be there. The thing that had to be there for the big bang expansion theory to occur. They don't think it proves the theory correct by chance, this is exactly what they were looking for.

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but they can not categorically say they have it right they can simply say they think they do

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It needs to be confirmed first. However like the Higgs Boson this squares a theory. For the inflation theory to be correct the scientists said that these 'gravitation waves' would exist alongside some other things. There was a lot of supporting evidence for the inflation theory but they needed to find that these waves exist, the smoking gun of inflation theory. Presuming there hasn't been a awful mistake they've found it.

Also they don't simply 'think' they have it right. They have evidence to support their hypothesis. It's also hard to doubt them when they said something would be there and then find it is. Their hypothesis is holding up.

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Better explanation here:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...-physics-bicep

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Have a read of why the guy mentioned 5 sigma when the door was opened.

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I have no doubt the young earthers will do what they do every time science shines a light on their nonsense and misinterpret the evidence.

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what if there is another explanation for the 'gravitation waves' that they have not found yet?

They thought they knew the shape of the milky way yes the very system we are in tiny in comparison to the universe until they found out they were actually incorrect and only found out something this close because the voyager probes shown them

I think I will stick to my skepticism seeing as they can get something wrong this near yet they say they know something millions of times further away

Edit not the milky way our solar system

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Don't suppose there is much difference between "let their be light" and a big bang really.

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:tu:

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Not sure exactly to what you're referring with regards to the shape of the solar system.

The Scientists seem pretty sure and they've been working on this for several years not content with the theory until they found these waves. The level of effort they've gone to prove this theory instead of just accepting all the other evidence should inspire confidence. You can stick to your skepticism but it appears to be based on nothing but a desire to question everything they do without evidence to merit your scepticism. They have gone to extraordinary endeavours to back up their claims whereas yours appear to be based on the fact that sometimes scientists are wrong. I would suggest that we go with the state of science which will evolve when they find out more information.

The alternative is to reject all scientific advances because there could always be another explanation for what we think we already know. Matter and concepts which we currently cannot detect or grasp. Things which exist outside our current understanding of the world. That train of thought heads into madness and the questioning of everything we currently know. Do we even exist? and so on.

So the best we can do to work within the parameters we have and the world as we can measure it. It's done well enough to help us invent air flight, space travel, nuclear technology and computing. So until such time as it's proven otherwise, it would seem the inflation theory is correct. It was hypothesised almost 100 years ago. Evidence has increasingly mounted in it's favour. Now they've found the final part of the jigsaw.

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The thing is Damien science have often said something is such and such a way only for years later to find it disproved. The human race I find a very arrogant species we have only traveled to the moon and we have probes that have only left this solar system yet by having devices that capture light that has traveled for many many years radiation and sound waves we try to explain everything.

They can say that x + y = reality but they can never ever be 100% sure on anything that they can not actually witness

As it stand at this moment they are trying to tell us how our universe began but they can not find a plane on our own planet lol

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But that doesn't get us anywhere. It's not a constructive way to look at the world. Even the things we can witness might not be true, it's not uncommon for people to fabricate experiences instead their own heads after all. You might as well believe in nothing if you work on the assumption that science is wrong.