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videodj 22-02-2014 18:06

Extremely slow browsing
 
I've been experiencing very slow browsing on 120Mb, I've tried speedtest and doesn't show any issues, virginmedia forum is so slow I can't even post on there, I gave up after 20 minutes. Internet is almost unusable, including lovefilm, netflix, xbox live etc. It's taken over 10 mins to post this aswell.

Do these look normal?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/02/15.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/02/16.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/02/17.jpg

General Maximus 22-02-2014 19:56

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
nice to see you are on 64qam. Can you do a trace to somewhere like bbc.co.uk and post the info.

pip08456 23-02-2014 00:46

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Virgin's DNS servers playing up again?

nefu 23-02-2014 18:52

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
I think VM DNS may be having problems, I experienced problems yesterday, changed my DNS to Google ( 4.4.4.4 & 8.8.8.8) and now its fine.

General Maximus 23-02-2014 19:51

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
well let this be a valuable lesson for everyone:

a) buy a proper router
b) use a mix of google dns and opendns

and then you will have next to no problems with your connection

Jumping 23-02-2014 20:04

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nefu (Post 35674977)
I think VM DNS may be having problems, I experienced problems yesterday, changed my DNS to Google ( 4.4.4.4 & 8.8.8.8) and now its fine.

Google DNS is 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

videodj 23-02-2014 21:01

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Here's the trace route

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/02/13.jpg

For the record I have a Cisco e4200 router. I have tried the google DNS, but has made much difference.

---------- Post added at 20:01 ---------- Previous post was at 19:10 ----------

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3326982711

General Maximus 24-02-2014 08:30

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
that's a bummer, I was expecting to see a massive latency increase somewhere on one of the hops in the VM network.

horseman 24-02-2014 12:49

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by videodj (Post 35675004)
....
For the record I have a Cisco e4200 router. I have tried the google DNS, but has made much difference....

I see you're serviced from a Motorola BSR64k ..... no doubt VM will blame it on another Cisco + SuperHub + Motorola compatibility 64QAM upstream issue? ;)

videodj 24-02-2014 20:00

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35675132)
I see you're serviced from a Motorola BSR64k ..... no doubt VM will blame it on another Cisco + SuperHub + Motorola compatibility 64QAM upstream issue? ;)

Well I tried without the router, modem straight to laptop and got the same results, so as far as I'm concerned it's not the router.

dibbz 25-02-2014 23:48

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
i have the same problem...exactly...for THREE WEEKS!!

i also live in northamptonshire - i was told via virgin forums (when i could look at them) that i have t3 / t4 errors and an engineer would need to visit to fix.

He came on friday and when i said about the timeouts he said "i dont know what they are" (good start). He checked the power levels, changed the SH and there was still a problem, he phoned a friend and was told its to do with virgin DNS servers and to put in googles. Done that and still the same, he left saying that you will have to wait until virgin fix the servers! (nice work!)

i tried to report a fault on 150 on saturday but as speedtest.net reported 126mb and youtube worked OK...as far as they were concerned everything was ok and there is no fault. Sunday...i gave up trying, the old 56.6k would have been faster.

So dialed 150 again today to retentions department as its still rubbish and was transferred. The bloke (very nice person) could not understand why browsing was so slow but yet the speedtest was so fast. I think he was trying to blame my pc or other equipment but he could'nt. I said that if it was the only device that had the problem then its obvious where the problem lies, but in fact the windows pc, mac book pro, ipad and phones all suffer the same problem.

Hes booked another engineer coming out on friday with their laptop to test!!

nomadking 26-02-2014 01:04

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
I've having these sorts of problems in Northampton(NN1). Also tried Google DNS and the problems remain.

videodj 26-02-2014 01:46

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
I'm trying Open DNS at the moment, but no difference. I tried ringing 150 tonight, got it the queue and then got cut off, so gave up. I've had to do my banking at work because my banks site is unusable at home. Virgin are often quick to blame everything apart from themselves, although it is pot luck depending who you get through do.

Whenever I've had issues before it's always been speed related, it would appear customer service assume full speed = good service, even the virgin website (when it works) states that service is good in my area (NN1). Clearly being able to access websites is excluded from the service report!

qasdfdsaq 26-02-2014 05:44

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Does ICSI Netalyzer throw up anything strange?

http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/

nomadking 26-02-2014 12:11

Re: Extremely slow browsing
 
Quote:

Network Access Link Properties + https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/02/2.gif

Network performance (?): Latency: 250 ms, Loss: 1.0% +


TCP connection setup latency (?): 760ms
The time it takes for your computer to set up a TCP connection with our server is 760 ms, which is quite high. This may be due to a variety of factors, including a significant distance between your computer and our server, a particularly slow or poor network link, or problems in your network.



Background measurement of network health (?): no transient outages +


Network bandwidth (?): Upload 1.1 Mbit/s, Download 19 Mbit/s +


Network buffer measurements (?): Uplink 509 ms, Downlink 73 ms
We estimate your uplink as having 510 ms of buffering. This level can in some situations prove somewhat high, and you may experience degraded performance when performing interactive tasks such as web-surfing while simultaneously conducting large uploads. Real-time applications, such as games or audio chat, may also work poorly when conducting large uploads at the same time.
We estimate your downlink as having 73 ms of buffering. This level may serve well for maximizing speed while minimizing the impact of large transfers on other traffic.


They are the sort of symptoms I am seeing. Looking at a new web page can take ages to start and may stall part way through.


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