Public sector pay: The Government are hypocrites
 

http://news.sky.com/story/1150567/nh...-halt-pay-rise

Next year most workers in the public sector are to be paid an increase of 1% pay rise.

Now, the government want to stop this, and quite rightly the unions are furious over this, i have been told that a part of my wage is being reduce down to 12% - losing approx £30.00 per month.

Why is it the government feel that they DESERVE a pay increase which almost certainly will be approved.

And yet the poor worker will be hit, isn't it about time the government cannot treat its workers, as if they were worthless.

Members in the NHS work very hard for their wages, and yet the government want to take this away from them.

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Sorry, last I heard a think tank said the MP's salaries should all go up and they all voted AGAINST the rise. Will try and find the link in a minute to that story.

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And here we go.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-rise-proposal

So yet another factless Government bashing thread by Arthur.

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Of course some people prefer living within other people's means...

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They are mainly talking about this part of the payrise Where people every year get a pay rise (around 3.5% or more), which is an annual increment until they reach the top of the grade/pay scale - this is not based on productivity, just for being there another year.....

And from further down the article

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This 1% is in ADDITION to the other increases they get.

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The problem is that after the expenses scandal everyone said how wrong it is that MPs can vote their own salary increases.

True, but the only other method was for someone else to decide and now the think tank have decided there isn't much that can be done.....

The NHS staff do seem to be getting a pay rise and rightly so....

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There are 1.7 million NHS Staff on an average salary of £29.5k link

That comes to just over £50 billion per year, and if they got a 5% pay rise (not counting the 3.5% increment that nearly 60% will get), that will cost an extra £2.5 billion year on year - if we include the average 3.5% increment that around 60% will get, we would need to find £3.6 billion.

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If they were to stop putting prices up on everything. nobody would need a pay rise.

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As much as I'd love the nurses to have a pay rise they've got to look at the bigger picture. Their union are miles away from reality.

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Basic economics of any political system in the world makes this hope impossible..

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I get 16.811K a year working as a Band 2 healthcare worker for the NHS I do a lot in my job as much as what a lot of other people might do but I have seen people in jobs that don't require the pay they get and much more than me.

I personally think my job role what I do should be 19.5k at band 3 rate but then I guess joe public will moan over my pay while they get their 50k treatment costs a year out of everyones taxes.

Lets look at public sector costs and not the staff wages and see what money is being wasted?

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Looks like the "hard working people" might be going on strike to tell Dave where he can stick his crackers and cheese.

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We have 140 patients on our Ward treatment costs 50k a year each. we have 30 staff

That's 7 million a year just for treatment

1 senior sister on 45k a year
3 junior sisters on 35k a year
13 staff nurses vary between 21-28k a year
13 healthcare's vary between 12-19k a year

Rough guess I would say 900k a year for staff

Treatment costs don't inc buying new machines that they need or some of the other stock we use.

So I would say roughly 10 million a year goes on patient treatment - 900k for staff wages is a small amount in the NHS budget in the grand scheme of things so why people moan at a 1% payrise is beyond me?

When patients sometimes don't turn up for treatment then we have to allocate a member of staff to find out where they are because they haven't answered the door and we have an obligations to follow up incase something has happened. we then have to inform the police who have to go to the property (worst case) they kick the door in to make sure persons are ok but then all this time and money is wasted. then there is the machines we have ready for them that have to be done before they turn up well we can't re-use the stock it has to be thrown away so that's £350 then the transport service charge us £70-£150 which they would anyway but in this instance the patient wasn't in so we get charged anyway.

what do we get in return when we try and tell them about wasting NHS money, well I've paid my taxes I can do what I want and I was out. Sorry but you've not paid 200k in taxes for the 4 years of treatment you've just had and that is what annoys me when the public moan about staff wages in hard times and patients abuse the NHS costing it millions in wasted tax payers money. If fingers want to be pointed lets look at the loss the NHS has every year due to time wasters.

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Sorry to let the truth intrude.:rolleyes:

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Yet again you post bull excreta based on a link that you have not even read correctly :rolleyes: