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Osem 23-02-2013 16:10

This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Listen to this remarkable call from Paul, an unemployed man who turned down a job because he didn't want to start at 8am.

Paul has been unemployed for seven years and revealed that he was recently offered a job, but he thought it was unfair that he would have had to start that early.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-jobless-...p-at-8am-64710


Heard this same guy on LBC yesterday in a follow up call. Apparently he was hired after the company agreed to a later start but was then sacked within 2 weeks after being late twice, the second time after he'd been out partying until the early hours that morning. What's staggering is his general attitude towards the world of work and what society owes him.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-sacked-f...for-work-67885

I still find it hard to believe he's genuine.

dilli-theclaw 23-02-2013 16:17

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
Do you really though?

Never EVER bet on stupidity!

I find it hard to be surprised these days. When I was still working in a warehouse I used to get up at 4am and cycle to the next village to work.

martyh 23-02-2013 16:24

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35540691)
http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-jobless-...p-at-8am-64710

He was hired after the company agreed to a later start but was then sacked within 2 weelks after being late twice, the second time after he'd been out partying until the early hours that morning. What's staggering is his general attitude towards the world of work.

Apparently this guy's been on before but I still find it hard to believe he's genuine.


Nah he's real alright .I've come across plenty like him

Osem 23-02-2013 16:26

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35540699)
Nah he's real alright .I've come across plenty like him

Just found the second podcast, have a listen but lie down first mate. ;)

dilli-theclaw 23-02-2013 16:27

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
I know one or two people just like it too.

One of them has signed up with an agency - when I asked him how he was getting on with them he said they didn't have any work. I asked how often he called them and asked them - but he said about a year - 'they'll call when they have something'.

MMMmmm

martyh 23-02-2013 16:29

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35540701)
Just found the second podcast, have a listen but lie down first mate. ;)

linky??

Osem 23-02-2013 16:33

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
One thing's for certain and that is people like him, whether genuine or not, do a very great disservice to the genuine unemployed who're really trying to find work and get themselves back on their feet.

It'll be interesting to see if more comes out about this guy and how true all this is.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35540704)
linky??

It's in my edited first post. ;)

Halcyon 23-02-2013 16:40

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
What a complete fool.
People like that want money but complain when they have to do any work to get it.
I wouldnt give him a single penny!

Sirius 23-02-2013 16:49

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35540699)
Nah he's real alright .I've come across plenty like him

And there are lots and lots of them out there :rolleyes:

Want the benefits but have never worked and have no intention of ever working.

Russ 23-02-2013 16:54

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
Next time I see a Sun-reading knucklehead moaning about "bloody foreigners coming over here, taking our jobs" I'll link to this thread.

Hugh 23-02-2013 16:57

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
Just waiting for someone to post that this was an actor paid by the Tories to inflame feelings against the unemployed......

martyh 23-02-2013 17:03

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35540705)
One thing's for certain and that is people like him, whether genuine or not, do a very great disservice to the genuine unemployed who're really trying to find work and get themselves back on their feet.

It'll be interesting to see if more comes out about this guy and how true all this is.

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It's in my edited first post. ;)

Run upto newcastle and help me off the floor please .

Lets get this straight ,this bloke refused a job in a packing factory because it started at 8am ,the factory gave him another chance so he started because he said "people where looking at him funny in the street" after the first phone call went viral. He sticks it out for a week ,the second week he is late twice because he goes on a bender "which isn't really my fault" he says so he gets sacked and he feels he has been treated unfairly .Everybody else who gets up to go to work on time are either "creeps" or "machines" .
The best part is ,he got sacked through his own fault so the social won't allow him to sign on so he has gone to the doctor and managed to blag his way onto the sick because he is now depressed .

Bloody marvelous :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35540714)
Just waiting for someone to post that this was an actor paid by the Tories to inflame feelings against the unemployed......

Maybe if he had been on a work scheme ,the ones loads on here say are a waste of time ,he would have been in the habit of getting up in the morning and wouldn't be of the opinion that nobody gets up that early .


I defy any of the posters who think work schemes are a waste of time to counter that comment

tizmeinnit 23-02-2013 17:10

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
I do not think work schemes are a waste of time as long as those on them get proper training and not just doing someone else out of a paid job. Those on them should get paid extra for being on them. I am all for training as I have said before allow those on JSA a year to train on full benefit as long as they prove they are attending and getting good grades. Martyh you seem to think everything is black and white. You need to allow a little grey into your life

This guy is a dick but I still believe this type is in the minority and it does give people like Marty and various other ammo in their long hard fight against what seems like anyone on benefits.

dilli-theclaw 23-02-2013 17:16

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35540726)
I do not think work schemes are a waste of time as long as those on them get proper training and not just doing someone else out of a paid job. Those on them should get paid extra for being on them. I am all for training as I have said before allow those on JSA a year to train on full benefit as long as they prove they are attending and getting good grades. Martyh you seem to think everything is black and white. You need to allow a little grey into your life

This guy is a dick but I still believe this type is in the minority and it does give people like Marty and various other ammo in their long hard fight against what seems like anyone on benefits.

That's the thing isn't it - I'm sure we all know some who are swinging the lead and some that aren't.

To make that determination for everyone is the problem. One size definitely doesn't fit all.

I have no easy answers, I just wish it WAS easy to put everyone into nice little holes.

tizmeinnit 23-02-2013 17:24

Re: This has got to be a wind up surely!
 
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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35540729)
That's the thing isn't it - I'm sure we all know some who are swinging the lead and some that aren't.

To make that determination for everyone is the problem. One size definitely doesn't fit all.

I have no easy answers, I just wish it WAS easy to put everyone into nice little holes.

Most of what el gov do is like urinating in the wind. The poorest are getting hit hardest by the cuts and some are really starting to suffer and in april when some can be upto £70 a month worse off


Unemployment is not getting combatted these work schemes are / were not helping people into work. Real training would help people into productive worthwhile jobs . I want to see training schemes fair ones similar but fairer to the YTS schemes of the 80s for the young to learn plumbing carpentry plastering bricklaying a trade which will give then none academic a chance to work in a good job with prospects instead of having no hope for a future. Dare I even say maybe a return to Grammer Schools for the academic and Comprehensives focused heavily on trade work for the less academic afterall society needs both to continue as it ( none of these are UKIP policies by the way just how I think)


Ironically staying on JSA apart from the courses is a lot easier now that it was a long time ago. All you need to do to sign on is send your CV out to various jobs available on the JC website and that is you done you bit sign on moneys yours. As long as you do that and go to all the meetings you are pretty much left alone


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