Re: Call for construction industry 'blacklist' inquiry
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
(Post 35526425)
Big difference between keeping a record of someone who can't do the job you hire them for, and keeping records of un-connected information
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
(Post 35526426)
Maybe but they do/should have to have some respect for the law which was changed/updated in 2010..Just because it's happened in the past is no excuse especially as the list is more about union representation and health and safety challenges rather than poor workmanship and bad timekeeping.
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No foreman or site agent wants a disruptive subbie on his site .Subbies don't get paid if they don't work or complete X amount of work ,the site itself doesn't get paid if phases aren't completed on time .A single disruptive subbie can bring a site down losing everyone jobs ,that's why there is very little union activity on sites ,it is not needed as the subbies usually* have the right to leave the site at any time and move on ,those that aren't subbies will sort any grievances out with their own employer be it the site or another company contracted in to do work
*It should be noted that employment on sites has changed a lot ,a lot of subbies are no longer subbies and work directly for the site and others work for other companies contracted to do the work only a very small % will be true subbies moving from site to site largely due to tax status changes making it much harder to retain a self employed status .
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
(Post 35526426)
Maybe but they do/should have to have some respect for the law which was changed/updated in 2010..Just because it's happened in the past is no excuse especially as the list is more about union representation and health and safety challenges rather than poor workmanship and bad timekeeping.
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The law has nothing to do with it ,it is another useless piece of legislation that is easily ignored and totally unneeded ,like the working time directive .A blacklist comes in various forms ,it is either a hard list on a database or simply knowledge kept in a foremans head and shared between other site foremen in the form of "i heard that joe bloggs is on your site ,i wouldn't have him back on my site after what he did ".
I was employed as a manager at a big window company a few years back and one of the first things given to me was a list of subbies who where not allowed to work for us either because they where no good at their job or they where disruptive in that they where always quoting rules and regulations and where more concerened with the letter of the law than doing their job |
