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Sparkle 22-01-2013 01:38

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Humans are a plague on the Earth that need to be controlled by limiting population growth, according to Sir David Attenborough.

The television presenter said that humans are threatening their own existence and that of other species by using up the world’s resources.
He said the only way to save the planet from famine and species extinction is to limit human population growth.
“We are a plague on the Earth. It’s coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It’s not just climate change; it’s sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now,” he told the Radio Times.
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I have to say I agree with him 100%. For most of my adult life I've believed that we need to curb our population otherwise nature will do it for us. Its just a shame that we're likely to destroy much of the planet/environment before we eventually learn, if we ever learn. Its all so very tragic.

Fawkes 22-01-2013 02:30

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The Earth is a self correcting system. The Earth will go on and so will life, but if we don't change then it will be the end for us.


EDIT:
Hans Rosling: Global population growth, box by box

Osem 22-01-2013 08:39

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I don't worry about any of this stuff, Jeremy Clarkson has all the answers and he'll see us through. :rolleyes:

Damien 22-01-2013 08:50

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Well you can't argue with that really.....

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Damien 22-01-2013 09:13

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35525859)
Agent Smith: Humans are a virus

We'll end up making the planet un-inhabitable for our species before we learn. There are already three times as many humans as the planet can sustainably support. Then when we're gone some other creature can have a go at being top dog or as many have speculated: Top cockroach.

Cats. Cats will take over the world. :erm:

Russ 22-01-2013 09:22

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Obviously my views lean towards the spiritual but even on those terms as well as evolutionary, we are vastly over-inflating our own importance on the planet. We are only the (self-imposed) dominant species because God/nature/whatever-you-believe-in allows us to be.

A good example is the weather. We may think we're awesome enough to get a Short Circuit-type robot on another planet but all it takes is for nature to slightly alter the Gulf Stream to give us the chaos that the rain caused last year.

Pierre 22-01-2013 09:24

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35525861)
Cats. Cats will take over the world. :erm:

Cats with opposable thumbs.

Gary L 22-01-2013 09:28

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What we need is some form of human culling.
it's just deciding who to start with.

Chris 22-01-2013 09:29

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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35525837)
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I have to say I agree with him 100%. For most of my adult life I've believed that we need to curb our population otherwise nature will do it for us. Its just a shame that we're likely to destroy much of the planet/environment before we eventually learn, if we ever learn. Its all so very tragic.

If you believe you are a plague, feel free to stamp yourself out. ;)

I subscribe to the Christian belief that the human race was put on Earth to tend and keep it, and it is our failure to be faithful to that command that causes problems for our planet, not the mere fact of our existence.

Damien 22-01-2013 09:30

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35525863)
Obviously my views lean towards the spiritual but even on those terms as well as evolutionary, we are vastly over-inflating our own importance on the planet. We are only the (self-imposed) dominant species because God/nature/whatever-you-believe-in allows us to be.

A good example is the weather. We may think we're awesome enough to get a Short Circuit-type robot on another planet but all it takes is for nature to slightly alter the Gulf Stream to give us the chaos that the rain caused last year.

Our brains! :D

But yes controlling the climate is a step too far for us at the moment. Ultimately even if we manage in reign in the earth and manage nature we'll still face the prospect of the sun burning out.

We need to colonise other planets!!

denphone 22-01-2013 09:34

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35525867)
What we need is some form of human culling.
it's just deciding who to start with.

And l gather you are going to put yourself forward as the first volunteer.;)

Julian 22-01-2013 09:36

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35525867)
What we need is some form of human culling.
it's just deciding who to start with.

Anyone who isn't meek?

RB2004 22-01-2013 09:37

No culling required, just need to start venturing into the solar system, that's why we have projects to mars.. So eventually we can colonise mars and the moon.

Just needs doing sooner rather than later... Lots of species are threatened and nobody learns, whales, tigers etc

Chris 22-01-2013 09:46

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35525869)
Our brains! :D

But yes controlling the climate is a step too far for us at the moment. Ultimately even if we manage in reign in the earth and manage nature we'll still face the prospect of the sun burning out.

We need to colonise other planets!!

We don't need to go even that far. There's still vast capacity here on Earth. I'm surprised to hear Attenborough blaming overpopulation in Ethiopia for famine, for example. That's thinly-disguised 19th-century Malthusian nonsense. Ethiopia's population density is considerably lower than, say, the UK or France. What it lacks is not breathing space, but the technology and infrastructure to sustain itself. Time and time again, wherever in the modern world a society has become developed, it has overturned Malthus' prediction that population would outstrip agricultural production, resulting in famine and death.

Gary L 22-01-2013 10:10

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35525868)
I subscribe to the Christian belief that the human race was put on Earth to tend and keep it, and it is our failure to be faithful to that command that causes problems for our planet, not the mere fact of our existence.

We were killing right from the very start. God, we even killed Jesus of all men.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35525872)
And l gather you are going to put yourself forward as the first volunteer.;)

I was going to give you £50 to get the ball rolling :)

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35525873)
Anyone who isn't meek?

I think we should give them a break. they've already got the British government on their backs.


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