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johnholmes 11-01-2013 09:03

Retentions deals
 
Have Virgin Media tightened the retentions deal process? Or is it only for me?

Customers like me used to just be able to phone them and get a deal (with a new 12 month contract), but now they will not budge - they want you do start the disconnection process - and only then will retentions call you back.

Is this correct?

Seems crazy to me, as more customers will actually end up leaving.

Thanks for any replies.

BenMcr 11-01-2013 09:18

Re: Retentions deals
 
Yes, the rules are much tighter now. Deals are offered based on the assessment of a customer, what services they have etc.

If you are already getting the best price VM want to offer for your services, Relations may very well only offer to disconnect you - which to be blunt, is what they are there to do

Sirius 11-01-2013 10:40

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35521877)
Yes, the rules are much tighter now. Deals are offered based on the assessment of a customer, what services they have etc.

If you are already getting the best price VM want to offer for your services, Relations may very well only offer to disconnect you - which to be blunt, is what they are there to do

About time. :tu:

on in an hour! 11-01-2013 10:50

Re: Retentions deals
 
TOO ;)

Sirius 11-01-2013 11:08

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by on in an hour! (Post 35521896)
TOO ;)

I edit it just for you.

:D

johnholmes 13-01-2013 07:41

Re: Retentions deals
 
Just to clarify retentions deals are still available, but they are harder to get, and inbound retentions may offer you nothing (although usually they offer something), forcing you to start the disconnection process and wait for outbound retentions to call you (a new part to the process). See the MoneySavingExpert forums.

jb66 13-01-2013 07:45

Re: Retentions deals
 
id love to hear the conversations when someones fishing for a deal and end up disconnected!

Sirius 13-01-2013 09:21

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35522439)
id love to hear the conversations when someones fishing for a deal and end up disconnected!

It would make me chuckle.

v0id 13-01-2013 13:50

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35522439)
id love to hear the conversations when someones fishing for a deal and end up disconnected!

Obviously they will have done their homework before phoning and retentions won't match what deals they've found elswhere if they go through with the disconnect ;)

Qtx 13-01-2013 22:21

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35522439)
id love to hear the conversations when someones fishing for a deal and end up disconnected!

All they have to do is call up 5 days before disconnection and ask for the disconnection date to be postponed another 30 days, or cancel the disconnection.

They will call you in the last week usually. Personally I think letting the disconnection go through is the best option anyway :p:

RichardCoulter 14-01-2013 06:27

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35522468)
It would make me chuckle.

Why? Less customers= less money for the pay rise you were after and possible redundancy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35522615)
Obviously they will have done their homework before phoning and retentions won't match what deals they've found elswhere if they go through with the disconnect ;)

Indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522824)
Personally I think letting the disconnection go through is the best option anyway :p:

I'm beginning to think that myself. The attitude of a minority of VM staff on here is beginning to make me question why I should continue to help pay their wages through multiple personal and business contracts.

I have a special number to ring for negotiating and am normally very happy with what i'm offered, but my loyalty is now beginning to be severely tested.

RobboEdin 14-01-2013 06:57

Re: Retentions deals
 
My feeling has been that Retentions have been far too generous in the past, leading to unprofitable business. It would be better all round, for both the business and the customer, if there was some more structure in pricing.

Time for companies in this country to reward LOYALTY, not disloyalty.

We need a pricing structure with two levels of discount. One level to reflect the number of services, say £5 for two services and £10 for three services. A second level to reward continued loyalty as a customer, say £2 for two years, £5 for five years and £10 for ten years.

A published price list with a published discount structure would be fair for all.

Qtx 14-01-2013 11:00

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35522862)
My feeling has been that Retentions have been far too generous in the past, leading to unprofitable business.

I would have thought that higher up the chain dictates to the retentions department what they can do at any time, based on what the number crunchers say is needed. Based on many calculations and what is needed at any particular time. At some points in time they will be happy to let customers go as it suits them, other times they need to make customer churn look less, is another possible scenario.

RichardCoulter 14-01-2013 14:12

Re: Retentions deals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 35522862)
My feeling has been that Retentions have been far too generous in the past, leading to unprofitable business. It would be better all round, for both the business and the customer, if there was some more structure in pricing.

Time for companies in this country to reward LOYALTY, not disloyalty.

We need a pricing structure with two levels of discount. One level to reflect the number of services, say £5 for two services and £10 for three services. A second level to reward continued loyalty as a customer, say £2 for two years, £5 for five years and £10 for ten years.

A published price list with a published discount structure would be fair for all.

You're quite right, loyalty is not rewarded, but taken for granted.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35522934)
I would have thought that higher up the chain dictates to the retentions department what they can do at any time, based on what the number crunchers say is needed. Based on many calculations and what is needed at any particular time. At some points in time they will be happy to let customers go as it suits them, other times they need to make customer churn look less, is another possible scenario.

Very, very true.

Mick Fisher 14-01-2013 15:38

Re: Retentions deals
 
Apparently Sky retentions have adopted a similar strategy.

Whether that is a chicken - egg scenario or an egg - chicken scenario I have no idea.

But whatever I applaud it.

I, too, feel it is long overdue for customer loyalty to be rewarded.


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